From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/60480 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Steven E. Harris" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Gnus with Exim Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 10:14:44 -0700 Organization: SEH Labs Message-ID: <83slz7he2j.fsf@torus.sehlabs.com> References: <83k6lagmx8.fsf@torus.sehlabs.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1119633183 7886 80.91.229.2 (24 Jun 2005 17:13:03 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 17:13:03 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M9007@lists.math.uh.edu Fri Jun 24 19:12:53 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Dlriq-0001KZ-Pp for ding-account@gmane.org; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 19:12:08 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1DlrlZ-00041b-00; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 12:14:57 -0500 Original-Received: from util2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.23]) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1DlrlQ-00041V-00 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 12:14:48 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by util2.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1DlrlP-0001RJ-TH for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 12:14:48 -0500 Original-Received: from mail3.panix.com ([166.84.1.74]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1DlrlO-0008J8-00 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 19:14:46 +0200 Original-Received: from mailspool2.panix.com (mailspool2.panix.com [166.84.1.79]) by mail3.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B8A113A86C; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 13:14:45 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from torus.sehlabs.com (ip68-6-187-174.sd.sd.cox.net [68.6.187.174]) by mailspool2.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BDB31D9E6D; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 13:14:45 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from seh by torus.sehlabs.com with local (Exim 4.50) id IILMKK-000048-HT; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 10:14:44 -0700 Original-To: David Abrahams Mail-Followup-To: David Abrahams , ding@gnus.org In-Reply-To: (David Abrahams's message of "Thu, 23 Jun 2005 14:49:26 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110004 (No Gnus v0.4) XEmacs/21.4.13 (cygwin32) X-Spam-Score: -4.8 (----) Precedence: bulk Original-Sender: ding-owner@lists.math.uh.edu Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:60480 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:60480 David Abrahams writes: [...] > I'm wondering what the most effective way of dealing with this is. > It seems kinda silly that a notice can fail to be delivered *to me* > by an exim running on this machine, and the messages will get thrown > out eventually! When you say "to me", do you mean to you as your local account on that computer, or to you as a remote account such as boost-consulting.com? Seeing the log messages below, I think you mean the latter, though it is worth noting that exim may have also sent some delay or failure warnings to your /local/ account. That would depend on whether exim thinks the message originated from a local account. > Oh, look: [...] > Is not helping because it reaches smtp.rcn.com, but then that server > asks for authentication! AFAIK there's no authentication I can > actually give it that will work from outside my cable modem, and it > forbids authentication from behind my cable modem :( Have you tried specifying authentication credentials for rcn.com in your exim.conf, but not citing their use as mandatory? You may recall that earlier on our discussion we looked at the hosts_try_auth=B9 and hosts_require_tls=B2 options for the remote_smtp transport. Perhaps you can include rcn.com in a hosts_try_auth option but not include the TLS stipulation: ,----[ Augmented transport ] | remote_smtp: | driver =3D smtp | hosts_try_auth =3D smtp.rcn.com `---- Later in the authenticators section, you'd need to specify one or two credentials using LOGIN or PLAIN authentication: ,----[ Authenticators ] | begin authenticators |=20 | fixed_login: | driver =3D plaintext | public_name =3D LOGIN | client_send =3D : dave : password |=20 |=20 | fixed_plain: | driver =3D plaintext | public_name =3D PLAIN | client_send =3D ^dave^password `---- Here we just cite the user name and password as global. It's probably possible to make them host-specific, but I don't have an example on hand. > This is a little discouraging! Got any sage words for me? What a nice surprise to come home to. Can you try the suggestions above from outside your cable modem connection and report back? Footnotes:=20 =B9 http://www.exim.org/exim-html-4.50/doc/html/spec_30.html#IX2239 =B2 http://www.exim.org/exim-html-4.50/doc/html/spec_30.html#IX2236 --=20 Steven E. Harris