From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/76399 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel,gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Gnus overrides.texi and WEBHACKDEVEL Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2011 17:39:33 +0200 Message-ID: <83wrle8p8q.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83ei7makon.fsf@gnu.org> <83ei7makon.fsf@gnu.org> <838vxuaek9.fsf@gnu.org> <877hdebm01.fsf_-_@lifelogs.com> <831v3ma532.fsf@gnu.org> <8739o2bjci.fsf@lifelogs.com> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1296920393 30681 80.91.229.12 (5 Feb 2011 15:39:53 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 15:39:53 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ding@gnus.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Ted Zlatanov Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Feb 05 16:39:48 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PlkEl-0007wn-Si for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 05 Feb 2011 16:39:48 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57260 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PlkEk-0006N9-BP for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 05 Feb 2011 10:39:46 -0500 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=57379 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PlkEX-0006KT-RT for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 05 Feb 2011 10:39:36 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PlkET-00031V-NP for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 05 Feb 2011 10:39:33 -0500 Original-Received: from mtaout20.012.net.il ([80.179.55.166]:46239) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PlkET-00031N-G0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 05 Feb 2011 10:39:29 -0500 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout20.012.net.il by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0LG500600HYYT500@a-mtaout20.012.net.il> for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 05 Feb 2011 17:39:28 +0200 (IST) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([77.124.97.124]) by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0LG500602I5NT210@a-mtaout20.012.net.il>; Sat, 05 Feb 2011 17:39:24 +0200 (IST) In-reply-to: <8739o2bjci.fsf@lifelogs.com> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 (beta) X-Received-From: 80.179.55.166 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:135617 gmane.emacs.gnus.general:76399 Archived-At: > From: Ted Zlatanov > Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2011 09:18:37 -0600 > Cc: ding@gnus.org > > EZ> More generally, what is a user supposed to do if she does want to put > EZ> something on gnus-overrides.texi? That's a versioned file, so "bzr > EZ> status" will show it as modified, and there's still a danger of having > EZ> it committed inadvertently. How is this better than just modifying > EZ> gnu.texi or any other file directly? > > The user wouldn't touch them, they are for the developers. By "user" I _did_ mean developers in this case. How do we prevent the danger of committing a modified file? Versioned files that are modified are generally meant to be committed at some point. If you want to have a file that Gnus manuals will include, how about modifying Makefile.in to create an empty file during the build procedure, if such a file does not already exist? Then this file will not have to be part of the repository, and developers who want to build modified manuals will create a non-empty file before building the manual. > I guess "gnus-includes.texi" would be a less confusing name? "gnu-manual-options.texi" sounds better. But its name is not a terribly important issue.