From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/83524 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: david.goldberg6@verizon.net (Dave Goldberg) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Odd undefined function after Fedora/Emacs upgrade Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2013 00:00:33 -0400 Message-ID: <8438rkh1ge.fsf@davestoy.homelinux.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1373601793 6876 80.91.229.3 (12 Jul 2013 04:03:13 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2013 04:03:13 +0000 (UTC) To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M31782@lists.math.uh.edu Fri Jul 12 06:03:11 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UxUZa-00064e-KG for ding-account@gmane.org; Fri, 12 Jul 2013 06:03:10 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1UxUXM-0007Pn-FU; Thu, 11 Jul 2013 23:00:52 -0500 Original-Received: from mx2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.33]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1UxUXJ-0007Pb-TC for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Thu, 11 Jul 2013 23:00:49 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx2.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1UxUXG-0003CH-It for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Thu, 11 Jul 2013 23:00:47 -0500 Original-Received: from vms173025pub.verizon.net ([206.46.173.25]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UxUXE-0002yz-V4 for ding@gnus.org; Fri, 12 Jul 2013 06:00:45 +0200 Original-Received: from davestoy.homelinux.org.verizon.net ([unknown] [173.48.214.182]) by vms173025.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MPT00M6B1SXLEA0@vms173025.mailsrvcs.net> for ding@gnus.org; Thu, 11 Jul 2013 23:00:34 -0500 (CDT) X-Face: W!bie|rYVd43O:2CkHTb*~s5}Yzx30X<@6Tq_bnP56Hp!xX4sVl4tgYRirjRcke\wfY!JJ9 i?]VIUJicJzq2\!3%7$5R%wi!R[.]Va97q User-Agent: Gnus/5.130008 (Ma Gnus v0.8) Emacs/24.1 (gnu/linux) X-Spam-Score: -2.2 (--) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:83524 Archived-At: This is probably more of an Emacs question than a Gnus question but it's related enough that I hope someone here can help. Since upgrading to Fedora 19 I now have a new version of Emacs: GNU Emacs 24.2.1 (x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.8.0) of 2013-04-10 on buildvm-11.phx2.fedoraproject.org and a weird problem. When I start gnus I get an error that gnus-get-text-property-excluding-characters-with-faces is an undefined function. I use the latest gnus from git which I keep in ~/gnus-src and the lisp subdirectory of which is put in my load path very early on. I do see that function defined in gnus-util.el there, and sure enough, if I explicitly load gnus-util before running gnus everything is fine. So my workaround has been to explicitly put (load-library "gnus-util") at the top of my .gnus file. What I think has happened here is that Fedora has burned me by building emacs such that the gnus-util in /usr/share/emacs is loaded on startup (or perhaps even compiled in). Sure enough if I run emacs -q and C-h v features I see gnus-util listed there. I can live with that - the explict load-library gives me the behavior I want, but I wonder if there is a better option, or if this is something that should be reported as a bug to the Fedora packager? Thanks, -- Dave Goldberg david.goldberg6@verizon.net