From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/49341 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: kai.grossjohann@uni-duisburg.de (Kai =?iso-8859-1?q?Gro=DFjohann?=) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Gnus lies about downloaded state Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 14:49:47 +0100 Organization: University of Duisburg, Germany Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: <844r867ekk.fsf@lucy.is.informatik.uni-duisburg.de> References: <844r8biqtg.fsf@lucy.is.informatik.uni-duisburg.de> <84k7h6h50w.fsf@lucy.is.informatik.uni-duisburg.de> <84ptqyv1lb.fsf@lucy.is.informatik.uni-duisburg.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1042897891 16963 80.91.224.249 (18 Jan 2003 13:51:31 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 13:51:31 +0000 (UTC) Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18ZtNh-0004PR-00 for ; Sat, 18 Jan 2003 14:51:29 +0100 Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu ([129.7.128.10] ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 18ZtNA-00025R-00; Sat, 18 Jan 2003 07:50:56 -0600 Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Sat, 18 Jan 2003 07:51:51 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (sclp3.sclp.com [66.230.238.2]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id HAA18865 for ; Sat, 18 Jan 2003 07:51:38 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: (qmail 97616 invoked by alias); 18 Jan 2003 13:50:38 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 97611 invoked from network); 18 Jan 2003 13:50:38 -0000 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org (80.91.224.244) by 66.230.238.6 with SMTP; 18 Jan 2003 13:50:38 -0000 Original-Received: from news by quimby.gnus.org with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 18ZtVM-0002Wx-00 for ; Sat, 18 Jan 2003 14:59:24 +0100 Original-To: ding@gnus.org Original-Path: not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnus.ding Original-Lines: 21 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: p508773fe.dip.t-dialin.net Original-X-Trace: quimby.gnus.org 1042898364 9595 80.135.115.254 (18 Jan 2003 13:59:24 GMT) Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@quimby.gnus.org Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: 18 Jan 2003 13:59:24 GMT User-Agent: Gnus/5.090013 (Oort Gnus v0.13) Emacs/21.3.50 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Cancel-Lock: sha1:I/dEKc4UUrHvoIYmsxNXfEZKMyw= Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:49341 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:49341 I'm afraid I kinda lost track about the situation now. I still see problems with the indication of the downloaded state, but I have more data. In this group, I have some ticked (and thus, cached) articles, and there are some old articles that I have marked as unread with M-u. And finally, there are unseen articles (marked with "."). They are marked as downloaded because I did `J s' after `g'. In this case, the M-u'd articles are marked as not downloaded. Now I read the new message and then hit M-g in the group. Then the M-u'd messages are correctly marked as downloaded: I see the + for %O and the color is the default color. I get the feeling that this is not about corruption of the state that the agent keeps. Instead, it seems that the summary buffer display interprets the data wrongly. But it is somewhat strange that the presence of "." (unseen?) articles has effect on that interpretation. FWIW, ticked (and thus, cached) articles are also always shown in the "undownloaded" face and with %O=-. -- Ambibibentists unite!