* gnus-summary-copy-article: choose group based on sender?
@ 2003-02-20 4:47 Graham Guttocks
2003-02-20 10:22 ` Kai Großjohann
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From: Graham Guttocks @ 2003-02-20 4:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
Greetings,
I gather that `gnus-move-split-methods' is what I need to customize in
order to influence the group name chosen when copying articles.
Does anyone have a definition of `gnus-move-split-methods' which picks
the destination group based on the article's sender? (i.e, LHS of the
e-mail address)
Or, put another way, how do I get access to the sender name from within
a `gnus-move-split-methods' definition?
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* Re: gnus-summary-copy-article: choose group based on sender?
2003-02-20 4:47 gnus-summary-copy-article: choose group based on sender? Graham Guttocks
@ 2003-02-20 10:22 ` Kai Großjohann
2003-02-20 16:51 ` Graham Guttocks
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From: Kai Großjohann @ 2003-02-20 10:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
Graham Guttocks <graham_guttocks@yahoo.co.nz> writes:
> Or, put another way, how do I get access to the sender name from within
> a `gnus-move-split-methods' definition?
It seems that entries like ("^From:.*jrl@" "nnml:to-jrl") might do
the trick.
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* Re: gnus-summary-copy-article: choose group based on sender?
2003-02-20 10:22 ` Kai Großjohann
@ 2003-02-20 16:51 ` Graham Guttocks
2003-02-20 18:26 ` David S Goldberg
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From: Graham Guttocks @ 2003-02-20 16:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
Kai Großjohann <kai.grossjohann@uni-duisburg.de> wrote:
>
> > Or, put another way, how do I get access to the sender name from within
> > a `gnus-move-split-methods' definition?
>
> It seems that entries like ("^From:.*jrl@" "nnml:to-jrl") might do
> the trick.
This isn't dynamic enough. I'd have to have an entry for every
possible sender. I'm looking for something like this:
(".*" "nnml:$SENDER")
Where $SENDER is the LHS of the sender e-mail address. e.g,
nnml:kai.grossjohann
I know the above syntax isn't right, but hopefully it will
illustrate my point.
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* Re: gnus-summary-copy-article: choose group based on sender?
2003-02-20 16:51 ` Graham Guttocks
@ 2003-02-20 18:26 ` David S Goldberg
2003-02-20 19:19 ` Graham Guttocks
2003-02-20 20:25 ` Kai Großjohann
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From: David S Goldberg @ 2003-02-20 18:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
I have gnus-move-split-methods set to this:
(((lambda (arg)
(let ((grp (dsg-get-appropriate-group arg)))
(cond ((stringp grp)
(list grp))
((listp grp)
grp)
t "nnimap+linus:INBOX.in-box")))))
Where arg is the name of the group (I think that's in the info since
it's not in the documentation string). dsg-get-appropriate-group is
an overly complicated function. It relies on the fact that the
function is run with current-buffer set to the article (or maybe
original article; I forget). You don't want my definition of it,
which has a lot of my work stuff hard coded. It's easy enough to
search for a given header and dynamically return a group name based on
it. If the group doesn't exist, you will be prompted to create it
when you confirm the copy/move.
--
Dave Goldberg
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* Re: gnus-summary-copy-article: choose group based on sender?
2003-02-20 18:26 ` David S Goldberg
@ 2003-02-20 19:19 ` Graham Guttocks
2003-02-20 20:04 ` David S Goldberg
2003-02-20 20:24 ` Kai Großjohann
2003-02-20 20:25 ` Kai Großjohann
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From: Graham Guttocks @ 2003-02-20 19:19 UTC (permalink / raw)
David S Goldberg <david.goldberg6@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> It's easy enough to search for a given header and dynamically
> return a group name based on it.
Well, this is my question. It's not obvious to me how I would
do this. A documentation pointer would be fine too if such a
thing exists.
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* Re: gnus-summary-copy-article: choose group based on sender?
2003-02-20 19:19 ` Graham Guttocks
@ 2003-02-20 20:04 ` David S Goldberg
2003-02-20 21:39 ` Graham Guttocks
2003-02-20 20:24 ` Kai Großjohann
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From: David S Goldberg @ 2003-02-20 20:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
>>>>> On Fri, 21 Feb 2003 08:19:56 +1300 (NZDT), Graham Guttocks
>>>>> <graham_guttocks@yahoo.co.nz> said:
> David S Goldberg <david.goldberg6@verizon.net> wrote:
>>
>> It's easy enough to search for a given header and dynamically
>> return a group name based on it.
> Well, this is my question. It's not obvious to me how I would
> do this. A documentation pointer would be fine too if such a
> thing exists.
See the function mail-fetch-field to get the value of a given field.
Then use concat to construct a group name based on that value and
return it.
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* Re: gnus-summary-copy-article: choose group based on sender?
2003-02-20 19:19 ` Graham Guttocks
2003-02-20 20:04 ` David S Goldberg
@ 2003-02-20 20:24 ` Kai Großjohann
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From: Kai Großjohann @ 2003-02-20 20:24 UTC (permalink / raw)
Graham Guttocks <graham_guttocks@yahoo.co.nz> writes:
> Well, this is my question. It's not obvious to me how I would
> do this. A documentation pointer would be fine too if such a
> thing exists.
M-x apropos RET fetch-field RET
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* Re: gnus-summary-copy-article: choose group based on sender?
2003-02-20 18:26 ` David S Goldberg
2003-02-20 19:19 ` Graham Guttocks
@ 2003-02-20 20:25 ` Kai Großjohann
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From: Kai Großjohann @ 2003-02-20 20:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
David S Goldberg <david.goldberg6@verizon.net> writes:
> Where arg is the name of the group (I think that's in the info since
> it's not in the documentation string).
The docs for gnus-move-split-methods point to gnus-split-methods, and
its docstring has the info.
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* Re: gnus-summary-copy-article: choose group based on sender?
2003-02-20 20:04 ` David S Goldberg
@ 2003-02-20 21:39 ` Graham Guttocks
2003-02-21 15:39 ` Kai Großjohann
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From: Graham Guttocks @ 2003-02-20 21:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
David S Goldberg <david.goldberg6@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> See the function mail-fetch-field to get the value of a given field.
> Then use concat to construct a group name based on that value and
> return it.
Ugh, I'm really struggling here. This is what I have, but something
isn't quite right:
(setq gnus-move-split-methods
'((".*" (lambda ()
(concat "saved." (mail-fetch-field "from"))
"nnml:"))))
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* Re: gnus-summary-copy-article: choose group based on sender?
2003-02-20 21:39 ` Graham Guttocks
@ 2003-02-21 15:39 ` Kai Großjohann
2003-02-25 2:10 ` Graham Guttocks
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From: Kai Großjohann @ 2003-02-21 15:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
Graham Guttocks <graham_guttocks@yahoo.co.nz> writes:
> Ugh, I'm really struggling here. This is what I have, but something
> isn't quite right:
>
> (setq gnus-move-split-methods
> '((".*" (lambda ()
> (concat "saved." (mail-fetch-field "from"))
> "nnml:"))))
Hm. First, you concat "saved." and the from header, then you throw
that data away. Then the function returns the string "nnml:".
Maybe you meant this:
(concat "saved."
(mail-fetch-field "from")
"nnml:")
Suppose the From header is "Kai Grossjohann <kai@frob.org>", then the
above will produce a group name like this:
saved.Kai Grossjohann <kai@frob.org>nnml:
It looks weird. There is a function mail-header-parse-address, btw,
such that
(mail-header-parse-address "Kai Grossjohann <kai@frob.org>")
will return
("kai@frob.org" . "Kai Grossjohann")
which appears somewhat more useful :-)
Does this help? (Give a man a fish... teach... you know...)
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* Re: gnus-summary-copy-article: choose group based on sender?
2003-02-21 15:39 ` Kai Großjohann
@ 2003-02-25 2:10 ` Graham Guttocks
2003-02-25 6:51 ` Kai Großjohann
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From: Graham Guttocks @ 2003-02-25 2:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: ding
Kai Großjohann <kai.grossjohann@uni-duisburg.de> wrote:
>
> It looks weird. There is a function mail-header-parse-address, btw,
> such that
>
> (mail-header-parse-address "Kai Grossjohann <kai@frob.org>")
>
> will return
>
> ("kai@frob.org" . "Kai Grossjohann")
>
> which appears somewhat more useful :-)
>
> Does this help?
It does help, thanks. Now the problem is that my News directory is
being prepended to the group name. For example,
/home/graham/News/nnml:save.kai@frob.org
This is what I have in my .gnus:
(defun sender-save-name (group)
(concat "nnml:save."
(car (mail-header-parse-address
(mail-fetch-field "from")))))
(setq gnus-move-split-methods
'((sender-save-name)))
Why is the News directory even in the picture, and how can I get rid
of it? I just want the literal "nnml:save.kai@frob.org".
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* Re: gnus-summary-copy-article: choose group based on sender?
2003-02-25 2:10 ` Graham Guttocks
@ 2003-02-25 6:51 ` Kai Großjohann
2003-02-25 18:15 ` Graham Guttocks
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From: Kai Großjohann @ 2003-02-25 6:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: ding
Graham Guttocks <graham_guttocks@yahoo.co.nz> writes:
> This is what I have in my .gnus:
>
> (defun sender-save-name (group)
> (concat "nnml:save."
> (car (mail-header-parse-address
> (mail-fetch-field "from")))))
>
> (setq gnus-move-split-methods
> '((sender-save-name)))
>
> Why is the News directory even in the picture, and how can I get rid
> of it? I just want the literal "nnml:save.kai@frob.org".
There are variables gnus-split-methods and gnus-move-split-methods,
where the former specifies filenames (for the `o' command, I guess)
and the latter specifies group names (for `B m').
The above behavior could be explained if you have set
gnus-split-methods to a similar value and use `o' or one of the `O'
commands instead of `B m'.
If that wasn't it, I have no idea.
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* Re: gnus-summary-copy-article: choose group based on sender?
2003-02-25 6:51 ` Kai Großjohann
@ 2003-02-25 18:15 ` Graham Guttocks
2003-02-25 20:25 ` Kai Großjohann
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From: Graham Guttocks @ 2003-02-25 18:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: ding
Kai Großjohann <kai.grossjohann@uni-duisburg.de> wrote:
>
> > (defun sender-save-name (group)
> > (concat "nnml:save."
> > (car (mail-header-parse-address
> > (mail-fetch-field "from")))))
> >
> > (setq gnus-move-split-methods
> > '((sender-save-name)))
> >
> > Why is the News directory even in the picture, and how can I get rid
> > of it? I just want the literal "nnml:save.kai@frob.org".
>
> There are variables gnus-split-methods and gnus-move-split-methods,
> where the former specifies filenames (for the `o' command, I guess)
> and the latter specifies group names (for `B m').
>
> The above behavior could be explained if you have set
> gnus-split-methods to a similar value and use `o' or one of the `O'
> commands instead of `B m'.
I haven't set gnus-split-methods. gnus-move-split-methods is set
as shown above. I'm not using `o' or `O', but rather `B c', and
I'm still seeing the ~/News directory prepended to the group name.
At this point, it's almost beyond imagination that something this
seemingly simple has consumed so much time and effort.
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* Re: gnus-summary-copy-article: choose group based on sender?
2003-02-25 18:15 ` Graham Guttocks
@ 2003-02-25 20:25 ` Kai Großjohann
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From: Kai Großjohann @ 2003-02-25 20:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: ding
Graham Guttocks <graham_guttocks@yahoo.co.nz> writes:
> I haven't set gnus-split-methods. gnus-move-split-methods is set
> as shown above. I'm not using `o' or `O', but rather `B c', and
> I'm still seeing the ~/News directory prepended to the group name.
I'm flabbergasted.
Does anyone have an idea?
The next thing to do would be to find where gnus-move-split-methods
is accessed (or what does gnus-summary-move-article do), then do M-x
edebug-defun RET on that function, then watch it compute the wrong
result.
> At this point, it's almost beyond imagination that something this
> seemingly simple has consumed so much time and effort.
Reality surpasses our wildest dreams sometimes...
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