From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/80778 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: david.goldberg6@verizon.net (Dave Goldberg) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Use of gnutls-cli breaks new verizon setting Date: Fri, 06 Jan 2012 00:28:58 -0500 Message-ID: <847h15ielh.fsf@davestoy.home> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1325827859 24998 80.91.229.12 (6 Jan 2012 05:30:59 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2012 05:30:59 +0000 (UTC) To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M29060@lists.math.uh.edu Fri Jan 06 06:30:54 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Rj2OD-00011s-T4 for ding-account@gmane.org; Fri, 06 Jan 2012 06:30:54 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Rj2N0-0004Si-LD; Thu, 05 Jan 2012 23:29:38 -0600 Original-Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.32]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Rj2Mz-0004SZ-AJ for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Thu, 05 Jan 2012 23:29:37 -0600 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1Rj2Mo-000754-OY for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Thu, 05 Jan 2012 23:29:36 -0600 Original-Received: from vms173019pub.verizon.net ([206.46.173.19]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rj2Mn-0001mq-2n for ding@gnus.org; Fri, 06 Jan 2012 06:29:25 +0100 Original-Received: from davestoy.home.verizon.net ([unknown] [173.48.206.146]) by vms173019.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0LXD0031W38A1C12@vms173019.mailsrvcs.net> for ding@gnus.org; Thu, 05 Jan 2012 23:29:00 -0600 (CST) User-Agent: Gnus/5.110018 (No Gnus v0.18) Emacs/23.1 (gnu/linux) X-Face: W!bie|rYVd43O:2CkHTb*~s5}Yzx30X<@6Tq_bnP56Hp!xX4sVl4tgYRirjRcke\wfY!JJ9 i?]VIUJicJzq2\!3%7$5R%wi!R[.]Va97q X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:80778 Archived-At: Verizon recently (finally!) announced support, soon to be required, for SSL on POP3 and SMTP. However things are weird. I did not have gnutls-cli on my system, so the pop3 setting found openssl and that worked fine. Smtpmail seems to insist on using gnutls-cli, with no option for openssl. So I installed gnutls-cli and things break. For pop3, it's called as gnutls-cli -p 995 --insecure incoming.verizon.net And for some reason, I get an error that my user is invalid. But if I set a debug-on-entry for pop3-logon and step through, it works fine. Seems like some odd race condition. For smtpmail, it's called as gnutls-cli -s -p 465 outgoing.verizon.net and this just hangs. If I do that at the command line, I see why - it connects to the server and prints a message saying "simple client mode" but no banner from the server. If I remove the -s, I get the banner from the server. However the -s is hardcoded into starttls.el. Why? Do I need it? While I'd prefer to not have a locally hacked file or function definition, if that's what I have to do I will but if that can be made optional, it would be nice. For what it's worth, I am on emacs-version is a variable defined in `version.el'. Its value is "23.1.1" on Ubuntu 10.04. Thanks for any advice. -- Dave Goldberg david.goldberg6@verizon.net