From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/73231 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dave Goldberg Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: nnimap unread count broken again Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 12:42:38 -0400 Message-ID: <84eibnfo5d.fsf@davestoy.home> References: <87fww3yfxp.fsf@mid.gehheimdienst.de> <87bp6rydyy.fsf@mid.gehheimdienst.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1287420239 6117 80.91.229.12 (18 Oct 2010 16:43:59 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 16:43:59 +0000 (UTC) To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M21603@lists.math.uh.edu Mon Oct 18 18:43:57 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1P7soU-0004si-Rd for ding-account@gmane.org; Mon, 18 Oct 2010 18:43:55 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1P7so7-0007DD-N2; Mon, 18 Oct 2010 11:43:31 -0500 Original-Received: from mx2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.33]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1P7so5-0007Cv-Mr for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Mon, 18 Oct 2010 11:43:29 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx2.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1P7so3-0004zf-Ps for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Mon, 18 Oct 2010 11:43:29 -0500 Original-Received: from vms173003pub.verizon.net ([206.46.173.3]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1P7so2-0002mA-00 for ; Mon, 18 Oct 2010 18:43:27 +0200 Original-Received: from davestoy.home.verizon.net ([unknown] [173.48.216.252]) by vms173003.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0LAH00IW9VR1H333@vms173003.mailsrvcs.net> for ding@gnus.org; Mon, 18 Oct 2010 11:42:39 -0500 (CDT) X-Face: W!bie|rYVd43O:2CkHTb*~s5}Yzx30X<@6Tq_bnP56Hp!xX4sVl4tgYRirjRcke\wfY!JJ9 i?]VIUJicJzq2\!3%7$5R%wi!R[.]Va97q In-reply-to: (Steinar Bang's message of "Mon, 18 Oct 2010 13:01:17 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110011 (No Gnus v0.11) XEmacs/21.4.22 (linux) X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:73231 Archived-At: >>>>> Frank Schmitt : >> Hmm. Isn't this removing symptoms instead of curing the disease? > I presume that if you start new gnusen with clean .newsrc.eld files, and > start subscribing to the groups in question you will never see the > issue...? > The way I understood it, what you're seeing is caused by the .newsrc.eld > files being out of sync, and M-g'ing the group is a way of synching > them. > Once they are synched you shouldn't have the issue. > Again, the way I've understood it, this is a result of the way QRESYNC > implementation tries to keep the network traffic to a minimum (and > thereby the speed to a maximum). I only use one instance of Gnus, and no, the count never resync's by running M-g on the group line. I've sent Lars (directly per his instruction due to the size) the traces I got through debugging and hopefully that will help to resolve the problem. Can say for certain that James Cloos is correct that the count has gone back to being determined by subtracting the smallest UID number from the highest. On my cyrus server this actually works because the UIDs are consecutive. On Exchange the numbers can be quite bizarre (a group with two unread showed over 100 in the Group buffer). As I've noted in earlier posts, watching the IMAP traffic, the server is clearly providing the correct numbers; Gnus is no longer doing the right thing with them as it did up until a week or so ago. I've tried to look at git bisect per someone's suggestion but am sufficiently unfamiliar with git that I've been unable to get anywhere. Thanks, -- Dave Goldberg david.goldberg6@verizon.net