From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/50302 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: kai.grossjohann@uni-duisburg.de (Kai =?iso-8859-1?q?Gro=DFjohann?=) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Why article numbers? Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 11:28:33 +0100 Organization: University of Duisburg, Germany Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: <84k7fr9tpq.fsf@lucy.is.informatik.uni-duisburg.de> References: <841y2jzrgm.fsf@lucy.is.informatik.uni-duisburg.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1045996211 1255 80.91.224.249 (23 Feb 2003 10:30:11 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 10:30:11 +0000 (UTC) Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18mtOX-0000Jw-00 for ; Sun, 23 Feb 2003 11:30:05 +0100 Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu ([129.7.128.10] ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 18mtOG-0000EC-00; Sun, 23 Feb 2003 04:29:49 -0600 Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Sun, 23 Feb 2003 04:30:47 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (sclp3.sclp.com [66.230.238.2]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id EAA01863 for ; Sun, 23 Feb 2003 04:30:35 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: (qmail 33091 invoked by alias); 23 Feb 2003 10:29:32 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 33086 invoked from network); 23 Feb 2003 10:29:32 -0000 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org (80.91.224.244) by 66.230.238.6 with SMTP; 23 Feb 2003 10:29:32 -0000 Original-Received: from news by quimby.gnus.org with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 18mtck-0006r0-00 for ; Sun, 23 Feb 2003 11:44:46 +0100 Original-To: ding@gnus.org Original-Path: not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnus.ding Original-Lines: 17 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: pd9e1e610.dip.t-dialin.net Original-X-Trace: quimby.gnus.org 1045997086 26349 217.225.230.16 (23 Feb 2003 10:44:46 GMT) Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@quimby.gnus.org Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: 23 Feb 2003 10:44:46 GMT User-Agent: Gnus/5.090016 (Oort Gnus v0.16) Emacs/21.3.50 Cancel-Lock: sha1:Z9wlqyEB2BIW7LJ2LSm5wuW/qw4= Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:50302 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:50302 prj@po.cwru.edu (Paul Jarc) writes: > I think I should point out that Kai and I seem to be advocating > slightly different things. Kai's suggestion, AIUI, is to use > Message-ID header fields as article IDs everywhere. My suggestion is > to let backends decide how to identify articles, with the only > requirement being that identifiers should be eq if they are supposed > to identify the same article. (This includes the possibility of > symbols whose names are Message-IDs, but does not require that.) Actually, I should be advocating the same as you are, even though what I said doesn't match this. Article identifiers should be an opaque object, an abstract data type. -- A preposition is not a good thing to end a sentence with.