From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/52761 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: kai.grossjohann@gmx.net (=?iso-8859-1?q?Kai_Gro=DFjohann?=) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Question about article identification and backends. Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 22:49:52 +0200 Organization: University of Duisburg, Germany Sender: ding-owner@lists.math.uh.edu Message-ID: <84n0hir79r.fsf@lucy.is.informatik.uni-duisburg.de> References: <8765o9cpoj.fsf@raven.i.defaultvalue.org> <87vfw9gszz.fsf@eris.void.at> <877k8paqlr.fsf@raven.i.defaultvalue.org> <84d6ig1szu.fsf@lucy.is.informatik.uni-duisburg.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1053377326 9773 80.91.224.249 (19 May 2003 20:48:46 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 20:48:46 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ding-owner+M1305@lists.math.uh.edu Mon May 19 22:48:44 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19HrYq-0002X5-00 for ; Mon, 19 May 2003 22:48:44 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 19HraN-0004pT-00; Mon, 19 May 2003 15:50:19 -0500 Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com ([64.157.176.121]) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 19HraF-0004pN-00 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Mon, 19 May 2003 15:50:11 -0500 Original-Received: (qmail 67099 invoked by alias); 19 May 2003 20:50:10 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 67093 invoked from network); 19 May 2003 20:50:10 -0000 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org (80.91.224.244) by sclp3.sclp.com with SMTP; 19 May 2003 20:50:10 -0000 Original-Received: from news by quimby.gnus.org with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 19HriP-0001Dr-00 for ; Mon, 19 May 2003 22:58:37 +0200 Original-To: ding@gnus.org Original-Path: not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnus.ding Original-Lines: 34 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: p508776ec.dip.t-dialin.net Original-X-Trace: quimby.gnus.org 1053377917 4686 80.135.118.236 (19 May 2003 20:58:37 GMT) Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@quimby.gnus.org Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: 19 May 2003 20:58:37 GMT Mail-Copies-To: never User-Agent: Gnus/5.1003 (Gnus v5.10.3) Emacs/21.3.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:5OAxvnrxWNrnh1aXrR06XzFNf5g= Precedence: bulk Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:52761 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:52761 prj@po.cwru.edu (Paul Jarc) writes: > kai.grossjohann@gmx.net (Kai Großjohann) wrote: >> It seems that the current problem is: say you have read all of the >> articles in a certain group, that is, articles 1 through 100. Now >> you move an article numbered 42 into that group. It is unread. >> Then Gnus will think it is read. >> >> But it ought to be possible to tweak Gnus so that it just splits the >> read sequence from 1-100 into 1-41,43-100. > > If all articles from 1 to 100 already exist, and we are inserting a > new article at position 42, then the new read list is 1-41,43-101. > The positions of all the later articles have to be changed. Since > articles are currently *identified* by position, this is more work > than just a tweak. Why 101? We were talking about all articles having a unique id in the whole backend. This means that there was no article 42 previously in the group -- there is only one article with number 42. (Articles coming from other backends should get new, higher, numbers, I guess.) >> Maybe it is even possible using the backend interface: the backend >> could tell Gnus the new list 1-41,43-100 of read articles. > > That's (sort of) how nnmaildir used to do it. But it breaks the > agent, the cache, and 'seen marks, at least. Hm. You have been there and done it. So it's better to believe you :-) -- This line is not blank.