From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/47795 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: kai.grossjohann@uni-duisburg.de (Kai =?iso-8859-1?q?Gro=DFjohann?=) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Reading mail with GNUS and other mail clients Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2002 22:40:36 +0100 Organization: University of Dortmund, Germany Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: <84r8ddcmgb.fsf@lucy.cs.uni-dortmund.de> References: <3DDCBCA6.7030009@uber.com.br> <84zns3b1ig.fsf@lucy.cs.uni-dortmund.de> <84of8ivnlh.fsf@lucy.cs.uni-dortmund.de> <3DDD7495.60203@uber.com.br> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1038001339 18310 80.91.224.249 (22 Nov 2002 21:42:19 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2002 21:42:19 +0000 (UTC) Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18FLY4-0004hj-00 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 2002 22:41:17 +0100 Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu ([129.7.128.10] ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 18FLXr-0000Ye-00; Fri, 22 Nov 2002 15:41:03 -0600 Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Fri, 22 Nov 2002 15:41:49 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (qmailr@sclp3.sclp.com [209.196.61.66]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA11751 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 2002 15:41:33 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: (qmail 27411 invoked by alias); 22 Nov 2002 21:40:40 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 27406 invoked from network); 22 Nov 2002 21:40:39 -0000 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org (80.91.224.244) by gnus.org with SMTP; 22 Nov 2002 21:40:39 -0000 Original-Received: from news by quimby.gnus.org with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 18FLZq-0002Iy-00 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 2002 22:43:06 +0100 Original-To: ding@gnus.org Original-Path: not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnus.ding Original-Lines: 39 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: pd951f9bd.dip.t-dialin.net Original-X-Trace: quimby.gnus.org 1038001386 8596 217.81.249.189 (22 Nov 2002 21:43:06 GMT) Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@quimby.gnus.org Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: 22 Nov 2002 21:43:06 GMT User-Agent: Gnus/5.090008 (Oort Gnus v0.08) Emacs/21.3.50 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Cancel-Lock: sha1:ZD/LkgQg7MO7S4lbR7N4+IpgFZc= Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:47795 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:47795 Jose Romildo Malaquias writes: > I (the original poster) want the marks to be updated, as Kay explained, > when reading messages with another mail client, and also I want the > other mail client should also see as read the messages read with > gnus. > > Maybe it would be feasible to write some script to be run when > starting/exiting gnus (or mutt) that check the messages that > were read with gnus (or mutt) and automatically mark them as > read in mutt (or gnus). Would that script be easy to write? > What do you gnus user think about this idea? Recent Gnusae have a .marks file in each groups which keeps the marks, and that file should be fairly easy to manipulate. But my guts tell me that this is a fragile solution, and if I were you, I would try other things first. First of all, an IMAP server should be easy to install on a Linux machine, and it would do just what you need (you could use any client which groks IMAP, not just Gnus and mutt -- Mozilla would also work). The only problem with the IMAP server is that you need to get the messages into the server in the first place. For this you normally have to configure your MTA (exim, postfix, sendmail, ...) correctly. But Cyrus (an IMAP server) also provides the possibility to pipe messages through the `deliver' program that comes with Cyrus, and that will also put them into the server. So you have a fallback if the configuration of the MTA is too difficult. The second idea is nnmaildir. Maybe it Just Works, with no additional configuration required. But I don't know. The potential problem here is the format in which marks are stored. It is not standardized I think, so you might have to read up on it for a while, or ask an nnmaildir expert. kai -- ~/.signature is: umop ap!sdn (Frank Nobis)