From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/66176 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dave Goldberg Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: exploring levels 5 and 6 of subscribedness Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 23:38:16 -0500 Message-ID: <84y7al862v.fsf@incoming.verizon.net> References: <87y7amf46l.fsf@jidanni.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1200803966 3043 80.91.229.12 (20 Jan 2008 04:39:26 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2008 04:39:26 +0000 (UTC) To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M14667@lists.math.uh.edu Sun Jan 20 05:39:45 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JGRyD-0008T4-Aq for ding-account@gmane.org; Sun, 20 Jan 2008 05:39:45 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1JGRxW-0006Vs-5Q; Sat, 19 Jan 2008 22:39:02 -0600 Original-Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.32]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1JGRxU-0006VX-Ni for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Sat, 19 Jan 2008 22:39:00 -0600 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1JGRxO-0003LI-A3 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Sat, 19 Jan 2008 22:39:00 -0600 Original-Received: from vms044pub.verizon.net ([206.46.252.44]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1JGRxP-0004YS-00 for ; Sun, 20 Jan 2008 05:38:56 +0100 Original-Received: from dsg-laptop.verizon.net ([71.174.120.247]) by vms044.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTPA id <0JUX001UPE7QXT81@vms044.mailsrvcs.net> for ding@gnus.org; Sat, 19 Jan 2008 22:38:19 -0600 (CST) X-Face: W!bie|rYVd43O:2CkHTb*~s5}Yzx30X<@6Tq_bnP56Hp!xX4sVl4tgYRirjRcke\wfY!JJ9 i?]VIUJicJzq2\!3%7$5R%wi!R[.]Va97q In-reply-to: <87y7amf46l.fsf@jidanni.org> (jidanni@jidanni.org's message of "Sat, 19 Jan 2008 19:25:06 +0800") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110007 (No Gnus v0.7) XEmacs/21.4.20 (linux) X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:66176 Archived-At: >>>>> On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 19:25:06 +0800, jidanni@jidanni.org said: > There is > S l gnus-group-set-current-level > but no > gnus-group-show-current-level There is gnus-group-group-level, but that's not an interactive function for some reason. A long time ago I had put a wrapper for it in my init.el but it apparently fell out of use because I see I no longer have it there. > to show the level of the current group. One must dig it out of > .newsrc.eld here in "Gnus v5.11". > Indeed it would be nice to have a command show all the levels of all > the groups. You can add %L to the group line format and you'll see it all the time. > All there is now is "show me all the groups below a given > level". There's also A l which will only show groups on a given level. > You see I have this group, "nnml:archive.2008", at level 5. Quite dim > in colour, I don't love the use of colors to distinguish the different levels either. I customized that out of my way. But then I'm satisfied with using just three levels, not counting whatever makes a group unsubscribed or killed. I make 3 my default list level and use 4 for groups like your archive (I don't use 1 - I don't know why, it just turned out that way). > but I don't want to see it at all there in the *Group* > buffer. OK, I then set it to level 6. But then it becomes > excruciatingly hard to dig it up when I do want to see it. j > (gnus-group-jump-to-group) then refuses to expand its name, etc. The > whole of gnus practically denies its existence. I never had a daughter > named Martha, etc. Yup, that unsubscribed doesn't work the way you describe you'd like it to is exactly what drove me to my current scheme. > At level 5 I could still mark all the articles as read and then it > acts like I want and goes just below the surface of the *Group* > swimming pool, but there are new articles accruing each day so it > becomes unread. Setting your default list level lower might solve this, but may require you to reset levels on some groups. -- Dave Goldberg david.goldberg6@verizon.net