From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/28871 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Big Gaute Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Oort Gnus Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 13:40:27 GMT Organization: The Church of Emacs Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: <853drsvp2v.fsf@zk201.girton.cam.ac.uk> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035165641 32072 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 02:00:41 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 02:00:41 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: from bart.math.uh.edu (bart.math.uh.edu [129.7.128.48]) by mailhost.sclp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF1A7D051E for ; Thu, 20 Jan 2000 08:41:40 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (lists@Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by bart.math.uh.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAB14805; Thu, 20 Jan 2000 07:41:19 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Thu, 20 Jan 2000 07:40:48 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from mailhost.sclp.com (postfix@sclp3.sclp.com [204.252.123.139]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA18476 for ; Thu, 20 Jan 2000 07:40:37 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from sunsite.auc.dk (sunsite.auc.dk [130.225.51.30]) by mailhost.sclp.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 4E54AD051E for ; Thu, 20 Jan 2000 08:40:29 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: (qmail 26786 invoked by uid 509); 20 Jan 2000 13:40:28 -0000 Original-To: ding@gnus.org Original-Path: not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: emacs.ding Original-Lines: 42 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0802 (Gnus v5.8.2) Emacs/20.5 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 131.111.216.14 Original-X-Trace: twister.sunsite.auc.dk 948375627 131.111.216.14 (Thu, 20 Jan 2000 14:40:27 MET) Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 14:40:27 MET Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:28871 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:28871 Harry Putnam writes: > Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE (Kai Großjohann) writes: > > > "Johan Kullstam" writes: > > > > > btw what wants to be done in the new gnus? is there a wish-list of > > > sorts somewhere? > > > > There was a discussion on this list a while ago. Not many features > > were requested, I recall. > > > Agent ... Agent and more Agent. > > Agent functions need to be brought into line with the full scope of > mail backend options. Full manipulation of agent files as if gnus > owned them (which it does ) Speaking as a fairly new gnus user, I can only agree. I used agent and imap at home this Christmas to read my mail (including several mailing lists) and it worked quite well, but it is all a bit crude. It would be nice if agent was smart enough to always store articles that I read while plugged, and only use the plugged / unplugged status to decide whether to go and look at the server as well as among locally stored articles. A somewhat related thing I'd like to see would be a divorce between some of the more specialised backends, in particular nndraft, and the actual backend used to store the articles. Possibly agent could be implemented as a sort of middleman in such a layer, though I wouldn't know. It's a bit rude of me to suggest sweeping changes like this without any real knowledge of what goes on inside gnus, but at least I think it should be clear what sort of functionally I'm missing. -- Big Gaute (not to be confused with LG) "There was a time when a guy who died at forty was revered as the toughest and most doggedly ancient son of a bitch in Cow Ass Clearing, Shitoleshire, Engalond, back in the year dot." - Spider Jerusalem, Transmetropolitan #25