* Contacting server when Leaving a group @ 2009-01-18 5:24 Harry Putnam 2009-01-18 15:37 ` Steven E. Harris 0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread From: Harry Putnam @ 2009-01-18 5:24 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ding This problem has started coming every once in a while since I've started having trouble connecting to gmane easily. Here is an example of what can happen. I've left gnus open on a a gmane group. Went to work on something else for a while. When I come back gnus has lost its connection to gmane. When I try to leave the group with c, or `ZZ' or any of the commands that are used for leaving groups, gnus won't let me because it cannot contact the server. I have to leave by changing buffers or some other ungnuslike way. It just makes me wonder... is it really required to contact a server in order to leave a group? Can't whatever information that is involved be cashed on gnus or something until the connection is restored? ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 5+ messages in thread
* Re: Contacting server when Leaving a group 2009-01-18 5:24 Contacting server when Leaving a group Harry Putnam @ 2009-01-18 15:37 ` Steven E. Harris 2009-01-20 17:44 ` Ted Zlatanov 0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread From: Steven E. Harris @ 2009-01-18 15:37 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ding Harry Putnam <reader@newsguy.com> writes: > When I try to leave the group with c, or `ZZ' or any of the commands > that are used for leaving groups, gnus won't let me because it cannot > contact the server. I have to leave by changing buffers or some other > ungnuslike way. Yes, thank you for raising this question. I run into this problem with my nnimap groups as well. One has to switch to the *Group* buffer, then hit C-^ to reach the *Server* buffer, then try to close the offending server, or maybe "deny" it, and kill an openssl process on the side, or kill an associated process buffer, then reopen the server, then go back to the *Group* buffer, find the group with the asterisk, reenter it, and, finally, with baited breath, try to leave it again by pressing 'q'. That's pain and embarrassment recast now as muscle memory. -- Steven E. Harris ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 5+ messages in thread
* Re: Contacting server when Leaving a group 2009-01-18 15:37 ` Steven E. Harris @ 2009-01-20 17:44 ` Ted Zlatanov 2009-01-20 23:50 ` Harry Putnam 0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread From: Ted Zlatanov @ 2009-01-20 17:44 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ding On Sun, 18 Jan 2009 10:37:47 -0500 "Steven E. Harris" <seh@panix.com> wrote: SEH> Harry Putnam <reader@newsguy.com> writes: >> When I try to leave the group with c, or `ZZ' or any of the commands >> that are used for leaving groups, gnus won't let me because it cannot >> contact the server. I have to leave by changing buffers or some other >> ungnuslike way. SEH> Yes, thank you for raising this question. I run into this problem with SEH> my nnimap groups as well. One has to switch to the *Group* buffer, then SEH> hit C-^ to reach the *Server* buffer, then try to close the offending SEH> server, or maybe "deny" it, and kill an openssl process on the side, or SEH> kill an associated process buffer, then reopen the server, then go back SEH> to the *Group* buffer, find the group with the asterisk, reenter it, SEH> and, finally, with baited breath, try to leave it again by pressing 'q'. It would be sufficient to retry opening the server, right? I've done this process too and it's a little annoying. Ted ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 5+ messages in thread
* Re: Contacting server when Leaving a group 2009-01-20 17:44 ` Ted Zlatanov @ 2009-01-20 23:50 ` Harry Putnam 2009-01-21 22:04 ` Ted Zlatanov 0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread From: Harry Putnam @ 2009-01-20 23:50 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ding Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> writes: > On Sun, 18 Jan 2009 10:37:47 -0500 "Steven E. Harris" <seh@panix.com> wrote: > > SEH> Harry Putnam <reader@newsguy.com> writes: >>> When I try to leave the group with c, or `ZZ' or any of the commands >>> that are used for leaving groups, gnus won't let me because it cannot >>> contact the server. I have to leave by changing buffers or some other >>> ungnuslike way. > > SEH> Yes, thank you for raising this question. I run into this problem with > SEH> my nnimap groups as well. One has to switch to the *Group* buffer, then > SEH> hit C-^ to reach the *Server* buffer, then try to close the offending > SEH> server, or maybe "deny" it, and kill an openssl process on the side, or > SEH> kill an associated process buffer, then reopen the server, then go back > SEH> to the *Group* buffer, find the group with the asterisk, reenter it, > SEH> and, finally, with baited breath, try to leave it again by pressing 'q'. > > It would be sufficient to retry opening the server, right? I've done > this process too and it's a little annoying. I guess so. What does it do currently? What it reports is `unable contact server...' or similar... I just assumed it did try to open the server. Maybe Contacting server and reopening server aren't the same? But what if an attempted reopening also fails... It does here sometimes when I do (in server buffer) C (close) O (open). It usually works the first time but not always. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 5+ messages in thread
* Re: Contacting server when Leaving a group 2009-01-20 23:50 ` Harry Putnam @ 2009-01-21 22:04 ` Ted Zlatanov 0 siblings, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread From: Ted Zlatanov @ 2009-01-21 22:04 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ding On Tue, 20 Jan 2009 17:50:57 -0600 Harry Putnam <reader@newsguy.com> wrote: HP> Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> writes: >> It would be sufficient to retry opening the server, right? I've done >> this process too and it's a little annoying. HP> I guess so. What does it do currently? What it reports is `unable HP> contact server...' or similar... I just assumed it did try to open the HP> server. HP> Maybe Contacting server and reopening server aren't the same? AFAIK it just gives up on the server currently if it can't be reached. I haven't looked at the source code nor do I have the time currently, but if no one else can I'll put it on my TODO list. HP> But what if an attempted reopening also fails... It does here HP> sometimes when I do (in server buffer) C (close) O (open). It usually HP> works the first time but not always. I would have a variable for number of retries (customized per server and a global one too). Ted ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 5+ messages in thread
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