From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/67307 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ted Zlatanov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Group, Summary buffers: End of line contain whitespaces Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 10:55:56 -0500 Organization: =?utf-8?B?0KLQtdC+0LTQvtGAINCX0LvQsNGC0LDQvdC+0LI=?= @ Cienfuegos Message-ID: <864p53ke7n.fsf@lifelogs.com> References: <87abfkmuko.fsf@jondo.cante.net> <86bpzlt5cq.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87prnut63f.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <86vdxlfdtn.fsf@lifelogs.com> <874p53kfcj.fsf@broken.deisui.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1220025416 3062 80.91.229.12 (29 Aug 2008 15:56:56 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 15:56:56 +0000 (UTC) To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M15758@lists.math.uh.edu Fri Aug 29 17:57:42 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KZ6Ls-0005Ye-4M for ding-account@gmane.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 17:57:32 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KZ6Kc-0002AP-7g; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 10:56:14 -0500 Original-Received: from mx2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.33]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KZ6Kb-0002AB-1l for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 10:56:13 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx2.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1KZ6KY-000829-R7 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 10:56:12 -0500 Original-Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.229.2] helo=ciao.gmane.org) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1KZ6Ka-0008Uo-00 for ; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 17:56:12 +0200 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1KZ6KT-0000f0-Qn for ding@gnus.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 15:56:05 +0000 Original-Received: from 38.98.147.130 ([38.98.147.130]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 15:56:05 +0000 Original-Received: from tzz by 38.98.147.130 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 15:56:05 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 37 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 38.98.147.130 X-Face: bd.DQ~'29fIs`T_%O%C\g%6jW)yi[zuz6;d4V0`@y-~$#3P_Ng{@m+e4o<4P'#(_GJQ%TT= D}[Ep*b!\e,fBZ'j_+#"Ps?s2!4H2-Y"sx" User-Agent: Gnus/5.110011 (No Gnus v0.11) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:KpbpwfCiU6OyfZunOPXcdp45ORs= X-Spam-Score: -1.5 (-) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:67307 Archived-At: On Sat, 30 Aug 2008 00:31:24 +0900 Daiki Ueno wrote: DU> Ted Zlatanov writes: >> On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 08:01:56 +0900 Miles Bader wrote: >> MB> Ted Zlatanov writes: >>>> I think this is the right solution. No one has explained why we need >>>> the trailing spaces AFAIK. >> MB> I don't think anyone has claimed they're _needed_. It's more than they MB> aren't particularly harmful, and going to great lengths to avoid them is MB> silly. >> >> I don't think it's silly: we're producing unneeded data for no clear >> purpose, and there's no harm in removing it. If so, it should be >> removed. I can do it unless someone explains why I shouldn't. DU> I also think that it's silly. After the patch applied, DU> (gnus-parse-format "%A" '((?A "ABCDE " ?s))) DU> => (concat "ABCDE ") DU> (gnus-parse-format "%A" '((?A "ABCDE " ?s)) t) DU> => "ABCDE" DU> Future Gnus developers will be troubled with the difference of the DU> results. Also, this change makes gnus-parse-simple-format specific for DU> rendering *Group* and *Summary* lines. That's a layer breakage. DU> I think Katsumi's first approach is even better. Before I revert and apply the other patch, I'd like to hear what Katsumi thinks. I agree format and layer breakage is bad, and don't want to break more inadvertently. Thanks Ted