From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/87212 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: What does "Ma" mean, from "Ma Gnus"? Date: Mon, 08 Aug 2016 20:48:24 +0200 Message-ID: <8660rbnll3.fsf@student.uu.se> References: <27E73A6C-10C8-4F08-89ED-6F5B51839B1C@yw.doraji.xyz> <8737mf75nv.fsf@alex.chromebook> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1470682186 3195 195.159.176.226 (8 Aug 2016 18:49:46 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2016 18:49:46 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4 (gnu/linux) To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M35432@lists.math.uh.edu Mon Aug 08 20:49:42 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from lists1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.208]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bWpcM-0000gB-3L for ding-account@gmane.org; Mon, 08 Aug 2016 20:49:42 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by lists1.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bWpbM-00014s-HO; Mon, 08 Aug 2016 13:48:40 -0500 Original-Received: from mx2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.33]) by lists1.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bWpbI-00014E-PS for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Mon, 08 Aug 2016 13:48:36 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx2.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1.2:DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bWpbG-0007pV-Pt for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Mon, 08 Aug 2016 13:48:36 -0500 Original-Received: from [195.159.176.226] (helo=blaine.gmane.org) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1bWpbE-0002Ux-6S for ding@gnus.org; Mon, 08 Aug 2016 20:48:32 +0200 Original-Received: from list by blaine.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bWpbC-0007Yr-Fh for ding@gnus.org; Mon, 08 Aug 2016 20:48:30 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: ding@gnus.org Original-Lines: 60 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org Mail-Copies-To: never Cancel-Lock: sha1:sKe+9ox8cZvNeECroQkPXfiuUJc= List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:87212 Archived-At: Byung-Hee HWANG "(황병희)" wrote: >> I am in subway, Seoul. This is evening time. >> While reading the Gnus history at Internet, >> i have some question. What does "Ma" mean, >> from "Ma Gnus"? Also is that Japanese word >> or English word or Norwegian word? My head >> is swimming with this question. Still there >> is no answer in my dictionary, in my >> google search. > > At wikitionary, i saw Magnus' meaning, it is > "Great". So "Ma Gnus" is "The Great > Gnus!"?!?! > > Wonderful world!!! Magnus is "great" (or "big") as well as a very common name. I always thought of it as Scandinavian in origin as it is very common here, but even as I kid I read the Transformers comic, and there is an "Ultra Magnus" character there so perhaps it is international as well (or "by now"). But, "Ma Gnus" may be an unintentional pun as the "Ma" is actually the Unicode 0x771F char, which is the Han char for "real, actual, true, genuine" and the Japanese "Ma" (or "MAKOTO MAKOTONI MA", whatever that means). [1] How it works in terms of technology is described here [2] Development is done using "named versions", whose first letters run backwards in the alphabet; "No Gnus" v0.19 was released in early 2012, and development transitioned to "Ma Gnus". No named version ever reaches 1.0, instead when it is considered stable enough for general release, it sheds its name and gets packaged with as simply "Gnus ". Here is a chart of the Japanese alphabet http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-eHJ73pG03uE/T0D2xd0Q1iI/AAAAAAAAAkM/9zU_SPcUe0U/s1600/Katakana_image.jpg So now it should be a quick fix to figure out what the next version name should be :) [1] http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/771f/index.htm [2] https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/gnus/Ma-Gnus.html https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gnus -- underground experts united .... http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573 Emacs Gnus Blogomatic ......... http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573/blogomatic - so far: 64 Blogomatic articles -