Emacs 21.1 switch broke reading of html mail (w3 problem?)

Emacs 21.1 switch broke reading of html mail (w3 problem?)

[Georg C. F. Greve]

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Hi all,

although I presume this is not exactly a gnus problem, I think it
might still be useful to know/solve in this context.

I just switched to Emacs 21.1 (which is a beauty, btw) and now I get
the error message

  "Cannot open load file: w3-21"

and I only see the header of the mail. Installing a freshly downloaded
version of w3 and putting that in the site-lisp path didn't help.

I'm pretty sure this is a w3 problem, but I'm asking myself whether it
isn't possible for gnus to shed the dependency on a package like w3?

Regards,
Georg

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Re: Emacs 21.1 switch broke reading of html mail (w3 problem?)

[Colin Marquardt]

"Georg C. F. Greve" <greve@gnu.org> writes:

> I just switched to Emacs 21.1 (which is a beauty, btw) and now I get
> the error message
>
>   "Cannot open load file: w3-21"
>
> and I only see the header of the mail. Installing a freshly downloaded
> version of w3 and putting that in the site-lisp path didn't help.

Type C-h P C-s W3

Cheers,
  Colin

Re: Emacs 21.1 switch broke reading of html mail (w3 problem?)

[Barry Fishman]

Colin Marquardt <c.marquardt@alcatel.de> writes:

> "Georg C. F. Greve" <greve@gnu.org> writes:
> 
>> I just switched to Emacs 21.1 (which is a beauty, btw) and now I get
>> the error message
>>
>>   "Cannot open load file: w3-21"
>>
>> and I only see the header of the mail. Installing a freshly downloaded
>> version of w3 and putting that in the site-lisp path didn't help.
> 
> Type C-h P C-s W3

I tried patches given but had still had enough W3 problems to keep it
worthless.  Things like an invalid arguments of keymapp.

However when I build URL and W3 from the CVS (from cvs.gnu.org) 
things worked very nicely.  The tar file on www.xemacs.com seem way
out of date.

I only needed to set the custom varable w3-user-colors-take-precedence
to "t" to get avoid a lot of color dissonance against my dark
background emacs setup.  Emacs 21 doesn't seem to have a way to set a
window specific background color for W3 to use.

Barry Fishman

Re: Emacs 21.1 switch broke reading of html mail (w3 problem?)

[William M. Perry]

Barry Fishman <barry_fishman@acm.org> writes:

> Colin Marquardt <c.marquardt@alcatel.de> writes:
> 
> > "Georg C. F. Greve" <greve@gnu.org> writes:
> > 
> >> I just switched to Emacs 21.1 (which is a beauty, btw) and now I get
> >> the error message
> >>
> >>   "Cannot open load file: w3-21"
> >>
> >> and I only see the header of the mail. Installing a freshly downloaded
> >> version of w3 and putting that in the site-lisp path didn't help.
> > 
> > Type C-h P C-s W3
> 
> I tried patches given but had still had enough W3 problems to keep it
> worthless.  Things like an invalid arguments of keymapp.

I just release 4.0.47 that should fix this problem for the old codebase.
I need to send an announcement out, will try to do that today.

> However when I build URL and W3 from the CVS (from cvs.gnu.org) things
> worked very nicely.  The tar file on www.xemacs.com seem way out of date.

Until recently there was some major brokenness in the CVS - most of it has
been fixed in the last week or so, but be warned. :)

-bp
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Re: Emacs 21.1 switch broke reading of html mail (w3 problem?)

[Karl Eichwalder]

wmperry@gnu.org (William M. Perry) writes:

> I just release 4.0.47 that should fix this problem for the old codebase.

Yesterday the 47pre tar archive file lacked the lisp files ;) I'll try
the next hours again.

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Re: Emacs 21.1 switch broke reading of html mail (w3 problem?)

[William M. Perry]

Karl Eichwalder <ke@gnu.franken.de> writes:

> wmperry@gnu.org (William M. Perry) writes:
> 
> > I just release 4.0.47 that should fix this problem for the old codebase.
> 
> Yesterday the 47pre tar archive file lacked the lisp files ;) I'll try
> the next hours again.

ran out of diskspace on /tmp/ so the package was screwed. :(  It is fixed
now though.

-bp
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Re: Emacs 21.1 switch broke reading of html mail (w3 problem?)

[Karl Eichwalder]

wmperry@gnu.org (William M. Perry) writes:

> ran out of diskspace on /tmp/ so the package was screwed. :(  It is fixed
> now though.

Can happen.  This afternoon (CET) url-util.el was still missing.
Additionally I'm wondering whether you'll continue to pack url and w3
together into one distribution archive file?

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Re: Emacs 21.1 switch broke reading of html mail (w3 problem?)

[William M. Perry]

Karl Eichwalder <ke@gnu.franken.de> writes:

> wmperry@gnu.org (William M. Perry) writes:
> 
> > ran out of diskspace on /tmp/ so the package was screwed. :(  It is fixed
> > now though.
> 
> Can happen.  This afternoon (CET) url-util.el was still missing.
> Additionally I'm wondering whether you'll continue to pack url and w3
> together into one distribution archive file?

For 4.0.x, they will continue to be in the same distribution, it would be
too big of a pain in the #%!@ to change that.  The new stuff, when it is
ready for general release, will be packaged separately so that people who
just want URL loading can have it, etc.

Emacs/W3 is likely to be split apart even more into a series of parsers
and DOM components, that something like Gnus could use to do web-based
backends without all the HTML rendering code (necessarily).

-bp
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Re: Emacs 21.1 switch broke reading of html mail (w3 problem?)

[William M. Perry]

Karl Eichwalder <ke@gnu.franken.de> writes:

> wmperry@gnu.org (William M. Perry) writes:
> 
> > ran out of diskspace on /tmp/ so the package was screwed. :(  It is fixed
> > now though.
> 
> Can happen.  This afternoon (CET) url-util.el was still missing.
> Additionally I'm wondering whether you'll continue to pack url and w3
> together into one distribution archive file?

Ummm... url-util isn't supposed to be in the old distribution.  That is
just in the head CVS.

-bp
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