From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/67294 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ted Zlatanov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: gnus and imap Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 13:02:16 -0500 Organization: =?utf-8?B?0KLQtdC+0LTQvtGAINCX0LvQsNGC0LDQvdC+0LI=?= @ Cienfuegos Message-ID: <868wulotw7.fsf@lifelogs.com> References: <877iabwtjx.fsf@randomsample.de> <87abf51c4m.fsf@marauder.physik.uni-ulm.de> <874p5dm35l.fsf@randomsample.de> <87iqttq7ja.fsf@randomsample.de> <87d4k0t7ga.fsf@randomsample.de> <87myj3wzp7.fsf@randomsample.de> <878wumqo7z.fsf@randomsample.de> <8763pq6k0d.fsf@rimspace.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1219687140 10258 80.91.229.12 (25 Aug 2008 17:59:00 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 17:59:00 +0000 (UTC) To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M15745@lists.math.uh.edu Mon Aug 25 19:59:54 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KXgKp-0007Yi-P9 for ding-account@gmane.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 19:58:36 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KXgJk-00034V-1w; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 12:57:28 -0500 Original-Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.32]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KXgJj-00034M-3a for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 12:57:27 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1KXgJg-0005XI-Bb for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 12:57:27 -0500 Original-Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.229.2] helo=ciao.gmane.org) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1KXgJh-0001Sq-00 for ; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 19:57:25 +0200 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1KXgJe-0003AJ-88 for ding@gnus.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 17:57:22 +0000 Original-Received: from 38.98.147.130 ([38.98.147.130]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 17:57:22 +0000 Original-Received: from tzz by 38.98.147.130 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 17:57:22 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 22 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 38.98.147.130 X-Face: bd.DQ~'29fIs`T_%O%C\g%6jW)yi[zuz6;d4V0`@y-~$#3P_Ng{@m+e4o<4P'#(_GJQ%TT= D}[Ep*b!\e,fBZ'j_+#"Ps?s2!4H2-Y"sx" User-Agent: Gnus/5.110011 (No Gnus v0.11) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:LDvZfAkvOQ+1FZmXTXdTp1rnRcw= X-Spam-Score: -1.5 (-) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:67294 Archived-At: On Mon, 25 Aug 2008 11:46:05 +0200 David Engster wrote: DE> Daniel Pittman writes: >> I have not yet taken the time to see if they available source code >> explains why this is, or if it can be fixed, but the UID space is >> *definitely* non-contiguous in Zimbra. DE> Thanks for your explanation. While this behavior of Zimbra might be DE> peculiar, it's in accordance with the IMAP RFC, which only demands UIDs DE> to be unique and ascending. So I'm afraid it is Gnus which will have to DE> be fixed here, which - being originally only a nntp client - still DE> assumes that article numbers are more or less contiguous. I would appreciate a quick primer: What elements of the Gnus data formats enforce this assumption currently? What backend functions make this assumption? Which functions outside the backends have knowledge of the data format internals? Thanks Ted