From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/87842 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: George myglc2 Clemmer Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: searching GMANE questions Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2017 17:15:44 -0500 Message-ID: <86a7z26qnj.fsf@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1512166615 2556 195.159.176.226 (1 Dec 2017 22:16:55 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2017 22:16:55 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: mu4e 0.9.18; emacs 25.3.1 To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+m36056@lists.math.uh.edu Fri Dec 01 23:16:49 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from mxfilter-048034.atla03.us.yomura.com ([107.189.48.34]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eKtbz-00008U-2D for ding-account@gmane.org; Fri, 01 Dec 2017 23:16:47 +0100 X-Yomura-MXScrub: 1.0 Original-Received: from lists1.math.uh.edu (unknown [129.7.128.208]) by mxfilter-048034.atla03.us.yomura.com (Halon) with ESMTPS id 537e325b-d6e5-11e7-a8eb-b499baa2b07a; Fri, 01 Dec 2017 22:16:49 +0000 (UTC) Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by lists1.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1eKtbE-0007p2-9Q; Fri, 01 Dec 2017 16:16:00 -0600 Original-Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.32]) by lists1.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1eKtbB-0007oU-SI for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Fri, 01 Dec 2017 16:15:57 -0600 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1.2:DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1eKtb8-0006Ou-1g for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Fri, 01 Dec 2017 16:15:57 -0600 Original-Received: from mail-wm0-f42.google.com ([74.125.82.42]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1eKtb6-0006Tb-Op for ding@gnus.org; Fri, 01 Dec 2017 23:15:52 +0100 Original-Received: by mail-wm0-f42.google.com with SMTP id t8so5943098wmc.3 for ; Fri, 01 Dec 2017 14:15:52 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=user-agent:from:to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version; bh=1M5hc2HVAJnMBYv05owAL/0O63IJQsnwMTFRtGicUUg=; b=cwzTncj9pt8FmtAJQ7zpuWEXoDXoUcwxiU54laIvYF75lMEnUVoioH7Z9YXGzCby0A 45sXeXM3tqTiz9Mhc0TPxaiBODkIVfMlrlAjjbokF5IO5ZnYGDs09/5XmMK3V3aS1e0B rtMdaWDLl5ZxLRfT5Vm0k3pGzr634T7eMzbkhJ3rZt2njgikG9iD9AESACIkx7F+cb5k CA7Ol9UnYrw82ZnfAnoBFjefdWo6Vcy0Py0uDClqwff6TztQ0hqq9maDGL/ufHe7NLGN CRd96KRkiOz4ntbjai1mHwbuW2/MKDLYxkQUxT3o/nmxMIfeyEZ9PHV0OZyfxgpZJHPk SKiQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:user-agent:from:to:subject:date:message-id :mime-version; bh=1M5hc2HVAJnMBYv05owAL/0O63IJQsnwMTFRtGicUUg=; b=oWjN+LPIrHEkfWk+FW/boh9E18v5OV9GvcFNUgT9dlPF4JBpE8xqPsgK0jXct09JGs wMv7fjHNp/rZOicozhHgNX1h+gCWITAfEJMsJBbRlsHgTW5MsYtRg/PRy3MsukbF7vMw Xgq57uIXM8dvm94Z7KuzIpTmYWysbsvgG0QeeaRIHT6Z4fH9SSgXNpnrxojmkNZXzkCA trNnyaF0YAhwXIAWQRebWl9gAUrTSheHtVFt8yTZr9Y19APKrgiczbCA3llKXKsQ6N1J FmVAvmcpHmX3eZ4JjDveJab+UBt0N+Vgwp4fTOcFKrsxOoj+gjHHeJ3qh6Hu9Fv39Gtp bgPQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AJaThX7zaLP37mr9Z0S/PeGGaTwn+JCx4hCvwWQ7VAQxI1+myuoN0LUK j+hBCVzBFkl/tL0kOpKhwUMZfHQN X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGs4zMagUrxctZ+kkS2oLr0nCD2V/e70+RaKr+NuPwVhktahq5K4IK9P52ut2jMfYxzMaC1hLYQstA== X-Received: by 10.80.190.76 with SMTP id b12mr19984870edi.184.1512166547010; Fri, 01 Dec 2017 14:15:47 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from g1 (c-73-167-118-254.hsd1.ma.comcast.net. [73.167.118.254]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id b2sm7475763edd.26.2017.12.01.14.15.45 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Fri, 01 Dec 2017 14:15:46 -0800 (PST) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:87842 Archived-At: Note: An attempted post on info-gnus-english@gnu.org yesterday and via gmane.emacs.gnus.general today seems to have gone missing :-( So I am re-posting this via ding@gnus.org ... sorry for the noise, if any. A few years ago I became highly addicted to Gmane search. But starting in July 2016 'G G' on gmane groups produced only 'open-network-stream: search.gmane.org/80 Name or service not known' :-( At the time the situation was discussed by gmane's founder: https://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/2016/07/28/the-end-of-gmane/ and by gname's new management: http://home.gmane.org/2016/08/ AFAICS there is no update to the situation since September: 2016 http://home.gmane.org/2016/09/ So I wonder, will gmane search ever work again? Does anybody know anything about this? And few related questions: Is/was gmane unique amoung NNTP servers in providing a search interface? Is/was the interface between gnus and gmane a custom thing? Is there any standard way to search NNTP servers? Is there any way, short of running a news server, to download the gmane.emacs.gnus.general archive? TIA - George