From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/67675 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ted Zlatanov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel,gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: gnus should accept UTF8 even if UTF-8 is standard Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 12:21:23 -0500 Organization: =?utf-8?B?0KLQtdC+0LTQvtGAINCX0LvQsNGC0LDQvdC+0LI=?= @ Cienfuegos Message-ID: <86abct3o4s.fsf@lifelogs.com> References: <87iqruvs19.fsf@jidanni.org> <86od1mj3z2.fsf@lifelogs.com> <86od1lg3xq.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87d4i1iqpq.fsf@marauder.physik.uni-ulm.de> <86k5c9fzm9.fsf@lifelogs.com> <878wsph5xr.fsf@marauder.physik.uni-ulm.de> <87wsg345oo.fsf@marauder.physik.uni-ulm.de> <86wsg2546l.fsf@lifelogs.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1224868912 3364 80.91.229.12 (24 Oct 2008 17:21:52 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 17:21:52 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ding@gnus.org To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Oct 24 19:22:53 2008 connect(): Connection refused Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KtQNB-0003Wv-8O for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 19:22:53 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60941 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KtQM5-0005y9-Rj for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 13:21:45 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KtQM0-0005xQ-TT for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 13:21:40 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KtQLx-0005uq-AN for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 13:21:39 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=49541 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KtQLx-0005ug-4v for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 13:21:37 -0400 Original-Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.229.2]:53432 helo=ciao.gmane.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KtQLw-0005Kw-Dk for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 13:21:36 -0400 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1KtQLr-0002ru-T8 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 17:21:31 +0000 Original-Received: from 38.98.147.130 ([38.98.147.130]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 17:21:31 +0000 Original-Received: from tzz by 38.98.147.130 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 17:21:31 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 18 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 38.98.147.130 X-Face: bd.DQ~'29fIs`T_%O%C\g%6jW)yi[zuz6; d4V0`@y-~$#3P_Ng{@m+e4o<4P'#(_GJQ%TT= D}[Ep*b!\e,fBZ'j_+#"Ps?s2!4H2-Y"sx" User-Agent: Gnus/5.110011 (No Gnus v0.11) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:webnfSi6gvuZvI1vVUglzh+59Cg= X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:104955 gmane.emacs.gnus.general:67675 Archived-At: On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 09:15:30 -0400 Stefan Monnier wrote: >> So maybe display a message "This is not the real coding system name, use >> `utf-8'" and also don't offer utf8 for completion? Would that be >> sufficient? SM> I think the message is useless. If we want to make it clear, then as SM> Stephen suggests we should make TAB expand "utf8" to "utf-8", and make SM> RET do the expansion and request confirmation. SM> But to tell you the truth, that would be more work because it's not SM> a standard form of completion. Tho I guess we could come up with SM> a special completion-style for it. I think completing utf8 to utf-8 is the best solution as you and Stephen described, so it's worth some code. Ted