From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/66859 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ted Zlatanov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: spam.el binds too many keys to `gnus-summary-mark-as-spam' Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 11:46:23 -0500 Organization: =?utf-8?B?0KLQtdC+0LTQvtGAINCX0LvQsNGC0LDQvdC+0LI=?= @ Cienfuegos Message-ID: <86abjnb1gg.fsf@lifelogs.com> References: <86ve33q91m.fsf@lifelogs.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1208796315 9556 80.91.229.12 (21 Apr 2008 16:45:15 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 16:45:15 +0000 (UTC) To: Gnus Original-X-From: ding-owner+M15341@lists.math.uh.edu Mon Apr 21 18:45:50 2008 connect(): Connection refused Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Jnz9C-0001l3-Eq for ding-account@gmane.org; Mon, 21 Apr 2008 18:45:42 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Jnz7b-0003z2-6O; Mon, 21 Apr 2008 11:44:03 -0500 Original-Received: from mx2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.33]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Jnz7Z-0003yo-U7 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Mon, 21 Apr 2008 11:44:01 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx2.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1Jnz7T-0003mQ-LF for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Mon, 21 Apr 2008 11:44:01 -0500 Original-Received: from mail.blockstar.com ([170.224.69.95]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1Jnz7e-0004yA-00 for ; Mon, 21 Apr 2008 18:44:06 +0200 Original-Received: from tzlatanov-ubuntu-desktop.jumptrading.com (unknown [38.98.147.130]) by mail.blockstar.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00CE03F8203 for ; Mon, 21 Apr 2008 09:52:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Face: bd.DQ~'29fIs`T_%O%C\g%6jW)yi[zuz6;d4V0`@y-~$#3P_Ng{@m+e4o<4P'#(_GJQ%TT= D}[Ep*b!\e,fBZ'j_+#"Ps?s2!4H2-Y"sx" X-Hashcash: 1:20:080421:ding@gnus.org::SM/NyafDOl/1Si45:00007zY7 In-Reply-To: (Reiner Steib's message of "Sun, 20 Apr 2008 14:32:05 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110009 (No Gnus v0.9) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:66859 Archived-At: On Sun, 20 Apr 2008 14:32:05 +0200 Reiner Steib = wrote:=20 RS> On Tue, Apr 01 2008, Johan Bockg=E5rd wrote: >> Ted Zlatanov writes: >>> I think those keys were chosen by consensus because several people >>> liked different bindings.=20=20 RS> If we'd use this policy ("several people like different bindings"), we RS> will end up with no available bindings very soon. I was not proposing that policy, only reminiscing. >>> I think `S x' should be the default, and Mst/Msx/M-d should go >>> away, but I really don't have strong feelings for any of those key >>> bindings. I use C-s personally, FWIW, because it's such a useful >>> operation. RS> Thinking more about it, I think that the `S ...' bindings are RS> completely misplaced. All other `S ...' are replying/posting related. RS> | (gnus-define-keys gnus-summary-mode-map RS> | "St" spam-generic-score RS> | "Sx" gnus-summary-mark-as-spam RS> | "Mst" spam-generic-score RS> | "Msx" gnus-summary-mark-as-spam RS> | "\M-d" gnus-summary-mark-as-spam) >> I use $. RS> Me too. ;-) RS> But I'm talking about the default key bindings which also occupy RS> bindings for users not using `spam.el' at all. My point about C-s was that most users will bind it to something shorter quickly. I really don't have any attachment to the current bindings. Maybe `,' (comma) would work? I could get used to `,,' (comma + comma) for gnus-summary-mark-as-spam, and `,=3D' (comma + equals) for spam-generic-score. I don't know the Emacs + Gnus conventions, though, so this may be a bad idea. Ted