From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/66727 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ted Zlatanov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: a Gnus biff (was: Restricting frequency of 'g') Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2008 16:12:32 -0500 Organization: =?utf-8?B?0KLQtdC+0LTQvtGAINCX0LvQsNGC0LDQvdC+0LI=?= @ Cienfuegos Message-ID: <86d4p0830f.fsf_-_@lifelogs.com> References: <877ifaxxhz.fsf@windlord.stanford.edu> <87fxtxqlet.fsf@jidanni.org> <86wsn9i2ta.fsf@ankh.home.genehack.org> <87prt1ypwc.fsf@windlord.stanford.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1207689106 21667 80.91.229.12 (8 Apr 2008 21:11:46 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 21:11:46 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ding@gnus.org To: Russ Allbery Original-X-From: ding-owner+M15210@lists.math.uh.edu Tue Apr 08 23:12:18 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JjL6w-0007TF-20 for ding-account@gmane.org; Tue, 08 Apr 2008 23:12:10 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1JjL5H-0001ij-6I; Tue, 08 Apr 2008 16:10:27 -0500 Original-Received: from mx2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.33]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1JjL5F-0001iU-9V for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Tue, 08 Apr 2008 16:10:25 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx2.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1JjL57-0000UQ-SC for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Tue, 08 Apr 2008 16:10:25 -0500 Original-Received: from mail.blockstar.com ([170.224.69.95]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1JjL5H-0004rg-00 for ; Tue, 08 Apr 2008 23:10:27 +0200 Original-Received: from tzlatanov-ubuntu-desktop.jumptrading.com (unknown [38.98.147.130]) by mail.blockstar.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15E3C3E8004; Tue, 8 Apr 2008 14:17:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Face: bd.DQ~'29fIs`T_%O%C\g%6jW)yi[zuz6;d4V0`@y-~$#3P_Ng{@m+e4o<4P'#(_GJQ%TT= D}[Ep*b!\e,fBZ'j_+#"Ps?s2!4H2-Y"sx" X-Hashcash: 1:20:080408:ding@gnus.org::7vyKaaa8jal+26QC:00000Jn7 X-Hashcash: 1:20:080408:rra@stanford.edu::VE5vVQKUz/TWlRw6:02EvP In-Reply-To: <87prt1ypwc.fsf@windlord.stanford.edu> (Russ Allbery's message of "Mon, 07 Apr 2008 20:41:23 -0700") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110007 (No Gnus v0.7) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:66727 Archived-At: On Mon, 07 Apr 2008 20:41:23 -0700 Russ Allbery wrote: RA> John SJ Anderson writes: >> jidanni@jidanni.org writes: >>> Your time-limited and cron-job-style assisted approaches are >>> artificial. >> >> Yes, but at least for me, the issue isn't that fetching mail takes a >> long time -- the issue is that I do it far too frequently (the "rat >> hitting the button to see if a crack pellet comes out" phenomenon). RA> Exactly. The problem that I'm solving is not a software problem. It's a RA> brain crutch. This particular limitation was inspired by reading about RA> Inbox Zero and realizing the degree to which I constantly check my e-mail, RA> have great difficulty not immediately processing mail as soon as I see it, RA> and have great difficulty not replying to mail as soon as I've processed RA> it, all of which distracts me from getting done the things I actually need RA> to work on. I hope my approach is helpful: 1) `g' in Gnus takes a loooong time (everything is fetched) so I only do it every 1-2 hours, or when I leave for a few minutes. 2) I have an `i' alias that shows me what new messages have arrived (it's a Perl script that speaks IMAP and Maildir). It can even display a particular message by number if I must see it right away. 3) I use M-g on a group if a new message is interesting and it will go to that group, and I want to do something with that message. Gnus could use something like (2), a biff command that just peeks in all the mail sources and generates a quick summary, but you can't do anything with it. The command could even show the destination groups for each message using the split rules. With IMAP/POP3 and file-based methods this is all fairly easy. Ted