* nnimap: gnus-gcc-mark-as-read not working
@ 2006-04-13 23:55 Wolfram Fenske
2006-04-14 8:20 ` Wolfram Fenske
2006-04-15 2:41 ` Dave Goldberg
0 siblings, 2 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Wolfram Fenske @ 2006-04-13 23:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
Hello!
I have sent mail Gcc-ed to a folder on my IMAP-server. This mostly
works, but the copy in the sent-mail folder is never marked as read.
In my .gnus.el I have:
--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
(setq gnus-message-archive-group "nnimap+uni:INBOX.sent-mail"
gnus-gcc-mark-as-read t)
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
If I use nnfolder for archiving, i. e. if I set
`gnus-message-archive-group' to "sent-mail", and leave everything else
untouched, archiving works as it should. Am I missing something or is
this an nnimap bug? Does anybody else have this problem?
Regards
Wolfram
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* Re: nnimap: gnus-gcc-mark-as-read not working
2006-04-13 23:55 nnimap: gnus-gcc-mark-as-read not working Wolfram Fenske
@ 2006-04-14 8:20 ` Wolfram Fenske
2006-04-18 10:34 ` Simon Josefsson
2006-04-15 2:41 ` Dave Goldberg
1 sibling, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Wolfram Fenske @ 2006-04-14 8:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Wolfram Fenske <Wolfram.Fenske@Student.Uni-Magdeburg.DE> writes:
> Hello!
>
> I have sent mail Gcc-ed to a folder on my IMAP-server. This mostly
> works, but the copy in the sent-mail folder is never marked as read.
> In my .gnus.el I have:
>
> --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
> (setq gnus-message-archive-group "nnimap+uni:INBOX.sent-mail"
> gnus-gcc-mark-as-read t)
> --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
>
> If I use nnfolder [...], archiving works as it should.
I've tracked it down. The error occurs here:
--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
(defun gnus-group-make-articles-read (group articles)
"Update the info of GROUP to say that ARTICLES are read."
(let* ((num 0)
(entry (gnus-gethash group gnus-newsrc-hashtb))
... ; some more initializing
(when entry
... ; do all the work
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
For my IMAP sent-mail group, "entry" is always "nil" because "group"
is "nnimap+uni:INBOX.sent-mail" but my ~/.newsrc.eld contains only
entries like "INBOX.sent-mail", i. e. the prefix "nnimap+uni:" is
missing.
Now the question is: why don't I have the prefixes in ~/.newsrc.eld?
Is this because nnimap is my primary gnus-select-method? A while back
I had nnimap as my secondary select method and I think I didn't have
this problem then.
Also: is there a bug in "gnus-group-make-articles-read" or is it my
config? I tought
--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
(setq gnus-message-archive-method '(nnimap "my.imap.server.de")
gnus-message-archive-group "INBOX.sent-mail")
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
might do the trick, but this didn't fix it, either.
If there really is a bug, and someone can tell me what's going on with
those prefixes, I'd be happy to write a patch. Until then, I'm using
this workaround:
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*** gnus-sum.el.orig Fri Apr 14 08:01:20 2006
--- gnus-sum.el Fri Apr 14 10:04:05 2006
***************
*** 5744,5749 ****
--- 5744,5754 ----
"Update the info of GROUP to say that ARTICLES are read."
(let* ((num 0)
(entry (gnus-gethash group gnus-newsrc-hashtb))
+ (entry (or entry
+ ;; strip the backend prefix and try again
+ (when (string-match "\\([^+]+\\+[^:]+:\\)?\\(.+\\)" group)
+ (setq group (match-string 2 group))
+ (gnus-gethash group gnus-newsrc-hashtb))))
(info (nth 2 entry))
(active (gnus-active group))
range)
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Regards
Wolfram
--
A: Yes.
>Q: Are you sure?
>>A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation.
>>>Q: Why is top posting frowned upon?
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* Re: nnimap: gnus-gcc-mark-as-read not working
2006-04-13 23:55 nnimap: gnus-gcc-mark-as-read not working Wolfram Fenske
2006-04-14 8:20 ` Wolfram Fenske
@ 2006-04-15 2:41 ` Dave Goldberg
1 sibling, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Dave Goldberg @ 2006-04-15 2:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
>>>>> On Fri, 14 Apr 2006 01:55:27 +0200, Wolfram Fenske <Wolfram.Fenske@Student.Uni-Magdeburg.DE> said:
> Hello!
> I have sent mail Gcc-ed to a folder on my IMAP-server. This mostly
> works, but the copy in the sent-mail folder is never marked as read.
> In my .gnus.el I have:
> (setq gnus-message-archive-group "nnimap+uni:INBOX.sent-mail"
> gnus-gcc-mark-as-read t)
> If I use nnfolder for archiving, i. e. if I set
> `gnus-message-archive-group' to "sent-mail", and leave everything else
> untouched, archiving works as it should. Am I missing something or is
> this an nnimap bug? Does anybody else have this problem?
Maybe it's fixed in CVS? I use No Gnus and it works fine for me. I
note though that i use explicit Gcc headers set by posting-styles
rather than gnus-message-archive-group.
--
Dave Goldberg
david.goldberg6@verizon.net
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* Re: nnimap: gnus-gcc-mark-as-read not working
2006-04-14 8:20 ` Wolfram Fenske
@ 2006-04-18 10:34 ` Simon Josefsson
2006-04-18 21:49 ` Bug in gnus-group-make-articles-read? (was: nnimap: gnus-gcc-mark-as-read not working) Wolfram Fenske
2006-04-18 21:52 ` nnimap: gnus-gcc-mark-as-read not working Wolfram Fenske
0 siblings, 2 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Simon Josefsson @ 2006-04-18 10:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: ding
Wolfram Fenske <Wolfram.Fenske@Student.Uni-Magdeburg.DE> writes:
> Wolfram Fenske <Wolfram.Fenske@Student.Uni-Magdeburg.DE> writes:
>
>> Hello!
>>
>> I have sent mail Gcc-ed to a folder on my IMAP-server. This mostly
>> works, but the copy in the sent-mail folder is never marked as read.
>> In my .gnus.el I have:
>>
>> --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
>> (setq gnus-message-archive-group "nnimap+uni:INBOX.sent-mail"
>> gnus-gcc-mark-as-read t)
>> --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
>>
>> If I use nnfolder [...], archiving works as it should.
>
> I've tracked it down. The error occurs here:
>
> (defun gnus-group-make-articles-read (group articles)
> "Update the info of GROUP to say that ARTICLES are read."
> (let* ((num 0)
> (entry (gnus-gethash group gnus-newsrc-hashtb))
> ... ; some more initializing
> (when entry
> ... ; do all the work
>
> For my IMAP sent-mail group, "entry" is always "nil" because "group"
> is "nnimap+uni:INBOX.sent-mail" but my ~/.newsrc.eld contains only
> entries like "INBOX.sent-mail", i. e. the prefix "nnimap+uni:" is
> missing.
Doesn't it work to simply drop the 'nnimap+uni:' part above?
> Now the question is: why don't I have the prefixes in ~/.newsrc.eld?
> Is this because nnimap is my primary gnus-select-method? A while back
> I had nnimap as my secondary select method and I think I didn't have
> this problem then.
>
> Also: is there a bug in "gnus-group-make-articles-read" or is it my
> config? I tought
>
> (setq gnus-message-archive-method '(nnimap "my.imap.server.de")
> gnus-message-archive-group "INBOX.sent-mail")
>
> might do the trick, but this didn't fix it, either.
>
> If there really is a bug, and someone can tell me what's going on with
> those prefixes, I'd be happy to write a patch. Until then, I'm using
> this workaround:
I've found that the easiest is to use a nnnil method as the primary
method, and then have all methods being equal.
> *** gnus-sum.el.orig Fri Apr 14 08:01:20 2006
> --- gnus-sum.el Fri Apr 14 10:04:05 2006
> ***************
> *** 5744,5749 ****
> --- 5744,5754 ----
> "Update the info of GROUP to say that ARTICLES are read."
> (let* ((num 0)
> (entry (gnus-gethash group gnus-newsrc-hashtb))
> + (entry (or entry
> + ;; strip the backend prefix and try again
> + (when (string-match "\\([^+]+\\+[^:]+:\\)?\\(.+\\)" group)
> + (setq group (match-string 2 group))
> + (gnus-gethash group gnus-newsrc-hashtb))))
> (info (nth 2 entry))
> (active (gnus-active group))
> range)
>
>
> Regards
> Wolfram
>
> --
> A: Yes.
>>Q: Are you sure?
>>>A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation.
>>>>Q: Why is top posting frowned upon?
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* Bug in gnus-group-make-articles-read? (was: nnimap: gnus-gcc-mark-as-read not working)
2006-04-18 10:34 ` Simon Josefsson
@ 2006-04-18 21:49 ` Wolfram Fenske
2006-04-18 21:52 ` nnimap: gnus-gcc-mark-as-read not working Wolfram Fenske
1 sibling, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Wolfram Fenske @ 2006-04-18 21:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
Simon Josefsson <jas@extundo.com> writes:
> Wolfram Fenske <Wolfram.Fenske@Student.Uni-Magdeburg.DE> writes:
>
>> Wolfram Fenske <Wolfram.Fenske@Student.Uni-Magdeburg.DE> writes:
>>
>>> I have sent mail Gcc-ed to a folder on my IMAP-server. This mostly
>>> works, but the copy in the sent-mail folder is never marked as read.
>>> In my .gnus.el I have:
>>>
>>> --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
>>> (setq gnus-message-archive-group "nnimap+uni:INBOX.sent-mail"
>>> gnus-gcc-mark-as-read t)
>>> --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
>>>
>>> If I use nnfolder [...], archiving works as it should.
>>
>> [...]
>>
>> For my IMAP sent-mail group, "entry" is always "nil" because "group"
>> is "nnimap+uni:INBOX.sent-mail" but my ~/.newsrc.eld contains only
>> entries like "INBOX.sent-mail", i. e. the prefix "nnimap+uni:" is
>> missing.
>
> Doesn't it work to simply drop the 'nnimap+uni:' part above?
Unfortunately, it doesn't, I just checked again (I knew I had tried
this at some point ...). If I omit it, gnus adds the prefix
"nnfolder+archive:", so I get a header field saying
--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
Gcc: nnfolder+archive:INBOX.sent-mail
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
I have to admit, I cheated a bit before. Actually, my setup is
--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
(setq gnus-message-archive-group '("nnimap+uni:INBOX.sent-mail" "sent-mail"))
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
I should have said that before.
Anyway, from reading the docs, I got the impression these setting were
a correct way to accomplish creating both a carbon copy on the IMAP
server and one in a local folder. My logic was: use the full name to
make it clear I mean the nnimap group and use an "unqualified" name
for the local copy, which gnus auto-completes using the value of
"gnus-message-archive-method" (I don't set this variable myself.).
>> Now the question is: why don't I have the prefixes in ~/.newsrc.eld?
>> Is this because nnimap is my primary gnus-select-method? A while back
>> I had nnimap as my secondary select method and I think I didn't have
>> this problem then.
>>
>> Also: is there a bug in "gnus-group-make-articles-read" or is it my
>> config? [...]
>
> I've found that the easiest is to use a nnnil method as the primary
> method, and then have all methods being equal.
That sounds like the way to go [1]. Still, I wonder whether the
behavior I described constitutes a bug or not. I'm thinking, yes, but
I don't know enough about the internals of gnus to actually decide
that.
Greetings
Wolfram
Footnotes:
[1] Maybe the distinction between primary method and secondary
methods should be removed altogether. I suppose it was good for
backward compatibility back in the day but now it's only asymmetric,
and it appears to me that the problem I described in this thread stems
from this very asymmetry. Why else would my IMAP groups (primary
method) be called e. g. "INBOX.sent-mail" in my ~/.newsrc.eld file,
when groups from other backends (secondary methods) are called
"nnfolder+archive:sent-mail" etc.? I'm almost sure, if it wasn't for
the different naming schemes, I wouldn't have had the problem.
--
A: Yes.
>Q: Are you sure?
>>A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation.
>>>Q: Why is top posting frowned upon?
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* Re: nnimap: gnus-gcc-mark-as-read not working
2006-04-18 10:34 ` Simon Josefsson
2006-04-18 21:49 ` Bug in gnus-group-make-articles-read? (was: nnimap: gnus-gcc-mark-as-read not working) Wolfram Fenske
@ 2006-04-18 21:52 ` Wolfram Fenske
1 sibling, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Wolfram Fenske @ 2006-04-18 21:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
Simon Josefsson <jas@extundo.com> writes:
> Wolfram Fenske <Wolfram.Fenske@Student.Uni-Magdeburg.DE> writes:
>
>> Wolfram Fenske <Wolfram.Fenske@Student.Uni-Magdeburg.DE> writes:
>>
>>> I have sent mail Gcc-ed to a folder on my IMAP-server. This mostly
>>> works, but the copy in the sent-mail folder is never marked as read.
>>> In my .gnus.el I have:
>>>
>>> --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
>>> (setq gnus-message-archive-group "nnimap+uni:INBOX.sent-mail"
>>> gnus-gcc-mark-as-read t)
>>> --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
>>>
>>> If I use nnfolder [...], archiving works as it should.
>>
>> [...]
>>
>> For my IMAP sent-mail group, "entry" is always "nil" because "group"
>> is "nnimap+uni:INBOX.sent-mail" but my ~/.newsrc.eld contains only
>> entries like "INBOX.sent-mail", i. e. the prefix "nnimap+uni:" is
>> missing.
>
> Doesn't it work to simply drop the 'nnimap+uni:' part above?
Unfortunately, it doesn't, I just checked again (I knew I had tried
this at some point ...). If I omit it, gnus adds the prefix
"nnfolder+archive:", so I get a header field saying
--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
Gcc: nnfolder+archive:INBOX.sent-mail
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
I have to admit, I cheated a bit before. Actually, my setup is
--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
(setq gnus-message-archive-group '("nnimap+uni:INBOX.sent-mail" "sent-mail"))
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
I should have said that before.
Anyway, from reading the docs, I got the impression these setting were
a correct way to accomplish creating both a carbon copy on the IMAP
server and one in a local folder. My logic was: use the full name to
make it clear I mean the nnimap group and use an "unqualified" name
for the local copy, which gnus auto-completes using the value of
"gnus-message-archive-method" (I don't set this variable myself.).
>> Now the question is: why don't I have the prefixes in ~/.newsrc.eld?
>> Is this because nnimap is my primary gnus-select-method? A while back
>> I had nnimap as my secondary select method and I think I didn't have
>> this problem then.
>>
>> Also: is there a bug in "gnus-group-make-articles-read" or is it my
>> config? [...]
>
> I've found that the easiest is to use a nnnil method as the primary
> method, and then have all methods being equal.
That sounds like the way to go [1]. Still, I wonder whether the
behavior I described constitutes a bug or not. I'm thinking, yes, but
I don't know enough about the internals of gnus to actually decide
that.
Greetings
Wolfram
Footnotes:
[1] Maybe the distinction between primary method and secondary
methods should be removed altogether. I suppose it was added for
backward compatibility back in the day but now it's only asymmetric,
and it appears to me that the problem I described in this thread stems
from this very asymmetry. Why else would my IMAP groups (primary
method) be called e. g. "INBOX.sent-mail" in my ~/.newsrc.eld file,
when groups from other backends (secondary methods) are called
"nnfolder+archive:sent-mail" etc.? I'm sure, if it wasn't for the
different naming schemes, I wouldn't have had the problem.
--
A: Yes.
>Q: Are you sure?
>>A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation.
>>>Q: Why is top posting frowned upon?
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