From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/67378 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ted Zlatanov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Gnus and GMail coexistence: need manual section Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 12:49:43 -0500 Organization: =?utf-8?B?0KLQtdC+0LTQvtGAINCX0LvQsNGC0LDQvdC+0LI=?= @ Cienfuegos Message-ID: <86fxo1padk.fsf@lifelogs.com> References: <86ljy6aaob.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87myij1qq6.fsf@gmail.com> <86ljy27ifq.fsf@lifelogs.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1221501030 23227 80.91.229.12 (15 Sep 2008 17:50:30 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 17:50:30 +0000 (UTC) To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M15829@lists.math.uh.edu Mon Sep 15 19:51:27 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KfIEI-0007Lw-9F for ding-account@gmane.org; Mon, 15 Sep 2008 19:51:18 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KfID9-0006gG-Ib; Mon, 15 Sep 2008 12:50:07 -0500 Original-Received: from mx2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.33]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KfID8-0006fy-BK for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Mon, 15 Sep 2008 12:50:06 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx2.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1KfID6-0006BB-4X for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Mon, 15 Sep 2008 12:50:06 -0500 Original-Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.229.2] helo=ciao.gmane.org) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1KfID9-0006ak-00 for ; Mon, 15 Sep 2008 19:50:07 +0200 Original-Received: from root by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1KfID5-0004A9-5L for ding@gnus.org; Mon, 15 Sep 2008 17:50:03 +0000 Original-Received: from 38.98.147.130 ([38.98.147.130]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 15 Sep 2008 17:50:03 +0000 Original-Received: from tzz by 38.98.147.130 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 15 Sep 2008 17:50:03 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 29 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 38.98.147.130 X-Face: bd.DQ~'29fIs`T_%O%C\g%6jW)yi[zuz6;d4V0`@y-~$#3P_Ng{@m+e4o<4P'#(_GJQ%TT= D}[Ep*b!\e,fBZ'j_+#"Ps?s2!4H2-Y"sx" User-Agent: Gnus/5.110011 (No Gnus v0.11) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:g/WNfw9zbRUxFMVkrCGdzhvThTQ= X-Spam-Score: -1.5 (-) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:67378 Archived-At: On Mon, 08 Sep 2008 10:42:33 -0500 Ted Zlatanov wrote: TZ> On Sun, 07 Sep 2008 16:27:45 -0700 "Eric Schulte" wrote: ES> I would recommend the page on EmacsWiki which does a very good job of ES> addressing all of these points, and could probably be dropped into the ES> gnus documentation with minimal editing ES> http://www.emacswiki.org/cgi-bin/wiki/GnusGmail TZ> Should the link be in the manual? Should the manual freeze this TZ> information? I can see both sides of the argument but it seems that TZ> freezing the information *and* providing the URL would be technically TZ> best but also most confusing to the user. Ping? I'd like some opinions please. This is about how the Gnus manual coexists with emacswiki.org and similar sites, not just about GMail, so I don't want to make the decision on my own. My vote is for freezing the information through some semi-automated system that updates CVS from emacswiki.org or other sources (never automatically!), and keeping all the information plus links to the original and credits in a separate manual section. This requires a look at any possible legal issues of bringing in emacswiki.org content into the manual. Who would know about this? Thanks Ted