From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/49838 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: merlyn@stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: road warrior trying to simplify a mail setup Date: 05 Feb 2003 09:04:44 -0800 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: <86fzr2ek0j.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1044464691 16359 80.91.224.249 (5 Feb 2003 17:04:51 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 17:04:51 +0000 (UTC) Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18gSyd-0004FY-00 for ; Wed, 05 Feb 2003 18:04:47 +0100 Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu ([129.7.128.10] ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 18gSzC-0002db-00; Wed, 05 Feb 2003 11:05:22 -0600 Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Wed, 05 Feb 2003 11:06:19 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (sclp3.sclp.com [66.230.238.2]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA17182 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 11:06:09 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: (qmail 76250 invoked by alias); 5 Feb 2003 17:05:07 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 76245 invoked from network); 5 Feb 2003 17:05:07 -0000 Original-Received: from red.stonehenge.com (postfix@65.208.40.162) by 66.230.238.6 with SMTP; 5 Feb 2003 17:05:07 -0000 Original-Received: by red.stonehenge.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 152D382588; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 09:04:45 -0800 (PST) Original-To: ding@gnus.org Original-Lines: 53 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.1 Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:49838 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:49838 The problem with an organically grown mail system is that you spend a lot of time making mulch for fertilizer. :-) Incoming mail for stonehenge.com comes first through a postfix regex match to handle immmediately breakoutable addresses (like rootbeer@stonehenge.com), and then everything else falls into merlyn@stonehenge.com, which delivers to a procmail delivery rule, which launches a Perl script. The Perl script is at least less than a year old, having sacrificed the much older MailAgent junk that I was using prior to that (mostly when I couldn't get MailAgent to run under a modern Perl, as it had been written for Perl4). I use Mail::Audit and Mail::Internet and Mail::ListDetector and (important) Mail::SpamAssassin to figure out who/where/why on each piece. Once the analysis is complete, I drop the mail into ~/.incoming/$something.spool, so that GNUS can pick it up in "sorted by procmail" mode. From there, GNUS picks it up, and drops it into the initial nnml folders, and I read my 1100 incoming (half spam, so my incoming spam folders get very little scrutiny). Amazingly enough, this stuff mostly works. Provided that I *only* want to read and answer email online. And that was fine, when my Mac laptop couldn't run /bin/sh, or more importantly, GNU Emacs. But now, I've found myself from time to time wanting to read and write email without an active net connection. I started by thinking I could ssh-grab-and-delete the .incoming directory in some atomic way so that I wouldn't step on the process, and the "master" directory of nnml folders would be on my laptop. But then, the hitch. Occasionally, I'm in an internet cafe with ssh, and not my laptop (or any means by which to attach my laptop). Right now, that's no problem, because ssh'ing from a random computer is no different from ssh'ing from my laptop (as I am doing right now) and typing "screen -DR emacs" to revive my emacs session. (I "boot" emacs about once a month. :-) But if the nnml folders are on my laptop, I'm hosed, since I'll have no access to context or unanswered mail. Help. I understand there's an offline reader mode, but I'm not sure how that would work for my setup. Would I need to set up an IMAP server, and could that let me access unanswered email both on and off the box? I can't be the only one who wants to read and answer email both while online and offline. -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 Perl/Unix/security consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See PerlTraining.Stonehenge.com for onsite and open-enrollment Perl training!