From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/57815 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: raphael.berbain@free.fr (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Rapha=EBl?= Berbain) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Old news keeps coming back. Date: Thu, 03 Jun 2004 13:06:06 +0200 Sender: ding-owner@lists.math.uh.edu Message-ID: <86hdtszyv9.fsf@ID-110038.user.uni-berlin.de> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1086270278 1928 80.91.224.253 (3 Jun 2004 13:44:38 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2004 13:44:38 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ding-owner+M6357@lists.math.uh.edu Thu Jun 03 15:44:21 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BVsW4-00023u-00 for ; Thu, 03 Jun 2004 15:44:20 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1BVsVH-0000p7-00; Thu, 03 Jun 2004 08:43:31 -0500 Original-Received: from util2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.23]) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1BVq3C-00005Q-00 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Thu, 03 Jun 2004 06:06:22 -0500 Original-Received: from justine.libertine.org ([66.139.78.221] ident=postfix) by util2.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1BVq3B-0003M8-55 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Thu, 03 Jun 2004 06:06:21 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org (quimby.gnus.org [80.91.224.244]) by justine.libertine.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 647873A0026 for ; Thu, 3 Jun 2004 06:06:20 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from news by quimby.gnus.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BVq39-0004ou-00 for ; Thu, 03 Jun 2004 13:06:19 +0200 Original-To: ding@gnus.org Original-Path: not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnus.ding Original-Lines: 41 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: rberbain.net1.nerim.net Original-X-Trace: quimby.gnus.org 1086260779 18531 213.41.132.143 (3 Jun 2004 11:06:19 GMT) Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@quimby.gnus.org Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2004 11:06:19 +0000 (UTC) Mail-Copies-To: never User-Agent: Gnus/5.110003 (No Gnus v0.3) Emacs/21.3.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:VP8YUTDAsP3Cpu3GsS7vEE+9VGM= Precedence: bulk Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:57815 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:57815 Barry Fishman writes: > Simon Josefsson writes: > >> Barry Fishman writes: >> >>> Using the CVS version of GNUS I find that when I read news offline, >>> exit news (normally) and come back later, read new news, and go >>> offline, I find the messages I have read are listed again as if they >>> were not seen. FWIW, I see the same thing here. Quite reproductible, too: Read some group, quit Gnus, start Gnus again, go online, get new news. Old articles appear as unread/seen. >> Maybe you need to synchronize the marks changes when going online, now >> that nntp uses marks. >> >> What's the value of gnus-agent-synchronize-flags? >> >> I notice that the default value for that variable has changed >> recently, but I missed the discussion on that, can someone provide a >> pointer? > > My gnus-agent-synchronize-flags value has its default value of nil. > Should I suppose that I need to set this to true. Setting it to t solved the issue for me. However, the documentation is misleading/out of sync: It says the default value for g-a-s-f is 'ask, whereas it is now nil. Also, it appears in the Agent and IMAP node, while it now seems relevant to nntp as well. All in all, it seems to me that the default setup is broken: With g-a-s-f set to t and agentized nntp, old articles come back. Maybe it is dependant on some other bit of config, though. So the questions: Does anybody know why Lars changed the default g-a-s-f value to nil ? What is this nntp marks stuff anyway ? Marks w/ imap, I get it, but I basically can't write anything on the nntp servers I use. Why does Gnus even try to synchronize marks with nntp ?