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From: Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Cc: ding@gnus.org
Subject: Re: gnus should accept UTF8 even if UTF-8 is standard
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 14:05:18 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <86k5c9fzm9.fsf@lifelogs.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87d4i1iqpq.fsf@marauder.physik.uni-ulm.de>

On Wed, 15 Oct 2008 21:49:21 +0200 Reiner Steib <reinersteib+gmane@imap.cc> wrote: 

RS> On Wed, Oct 15 2008, Ted Zlatanov wrote:
>> On Wed, 15 Oct 2008 09:39:41 +0900 Kenichi Handa <handa@m17n.org> wrote: 
KH> Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> writes:
>>>> (define-coding-system-alias 'utf8 'utf-8)
>>>> (define-coding-system-alias 'UTF8 'utf-8)
>> 
KH> I agree that defining those aliases causes no problem.

RS> [ See <http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/66962> for a
RS>   previous discussion on this topic. ]

RS> I seem to recall that (define-coding-system-alias 'utf8 'utf-8) might
RS> trigger Gnus into sending articles with "Content-type: text/plain;
RS> charset=utf8" which would be plain wrong [1][2].  But I'm not sure.

If it does we can fix it (maybe it can prefer the original coding system
before trying its aliases).  The general usage, regardless of Gnus and
the RFCs, is that these are valid synonyms for utf-8, so I think this is
the right thing to do.

RS> For the problem at hand (displaying incoming articles), the user can
RS> type `1 g utf-8 RET' (<menu-bar> <Article> <Display> <View as
RS> different encoding> <utf-8>) or add (utf8 . utf-8) to
RS> `mm-charset-synonym-alist'.

RS> If it becomes a more frequent mistake, we might add (utf8 . utf-8) to
RS> the default value `mm-charset-synonym-alist'.  I hesitate to pollute
RS> `mm-charset-synonym-alist' by adding entries for each and every pilot
RS> error.

It's not a pilot error at this point, the mangled names have been in
common usage for years...

Ted





  reply	other threads:[~2008-10-15 19:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-10-14 20:30 jidanni
2008-10-14 20:50 ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-10-15  0:39   ` Kenichi Handa
2008-10-15 16:10     ` Richard M. Stallman
2008-10-15 17:32     ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-10-15 19:49       ` Reiner Steib
2008-10-15 19:05         ` Ted Zlatanov [this message]
2008-10-15 22:03           ` Reiner Steib
2008-10-15 21:23             ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-10-16  0:15               ` Katsumi Yamaoka
2008-10-20 16:23                 ` Reiner Steib
2008-10-21  0:01                   ` Katsumi Yamaoka
2008-12-15 23:35                     ` Katsumi Yamaoka
2008-10-16  4:32               ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-10-16  6:47               ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-10-16 13:01                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-10-16  2:41             ` Stefan Monnier
2008-10-16 14:27               ` Richard M. Stallman
2008-10-16 15:41                 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-10-16 17:47                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-10-17 19:59                   ` Richard M. Stallman
2008-10-18 19:01                     ` Stefan Monnier
2008-10-20  1:14                       ` Richard M. Stallman
2008-10-20  3:21                         ` Stefan Monnier
2008-10-20  8:42                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-10-20 17:04                           ` Richard M. Stallman
2008-10-21  4:39                             ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-10-21  5:23                               ` Miles Bader
2008-10-21  6:25                                 ` tomas
2008-10-21  6:21                                   ` Miles Bader
2008-10-21  7:44                                     ` tomas
2008-10-21  8:15                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-10-21  9:06                                       ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-10-21 10:22                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-10-21 12:06                                           ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-10-21 12:40                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-10-22  2:34                                               ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-10-22  4:33                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-10-22 21:02                                                 ` Richard M. Stallman
2008-10-22  0:32                                       ` Kenichi Handa
2008-10-22  4:27                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-01-27  4:51                                           ` Kenichi Handa
2008-10-21  8:06                                 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-10-20 16:00                 ` Reiner Steib
2008-10-20 22:03                   ` Richard M. Stallman
2008-10-21  2:50                     ` Kenichi Handa
2008-10-21 16:00                       ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-10-22  1:22                         ` Kenichi Handa
2008-10-22  2:07                         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-10-22  6:21                         ` Richard M. Stallman
2008-10-23  2:34                           ` Kenichi Handa
2008-10-23 21:08                             ` Richard M. Stallman
2008-10-24  0:54                               ` Kenichi Handa
2008-10-24 18:36                                 ` Richard M. Stallman
2008-10-22 13:15                         ` Stefan Monnier
2008-10-24 17:21                           ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-10-25  2:01                             ` Richard M. Stallman
2008-10-25  2:32                               ` Kenichi Handa
2008-10-26  4:10                                 ` Richard M. Stallman
2008-10-31  6:33                                   ` Kenichi Handa
2008-10-31  7:24                                     ` Miles Bader
2008-10-31 19:31                                     ` Richard M. Stallman
2008-11-01  2:17                                       ` Kenichi Handa
2008-11-02  1:53                                         ` Richard M. Stallman
2008-11-07  7:15                                           ` Kenichi Handa
2008-11-07 17:04                                             ` Richard M. Stallman
2008-10-25 18:27                               ` Stefan Monnier
2008-10-26  4:10                                 ` Richard M. Stallman
2008-10-31 21:29                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2008-11-10  5:43                                     ` Kenichi Handa
2008-11-10 15:01                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2008-10-16  1:12         ` Kenichi Handa

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