From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/58962 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Kai Grossjohann Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: nnir.el? Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2004 22:54:14 +0200 Sender: ding-owner@lists.math.uh.edu Message-ID: <86lldxp349.fsf@ketchup.de.uu.net> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1098564916 11892 80.91.229.6 (23 Oct 2004 20:55:16 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2004 20:55:16 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ding-owner+M7503@lists.math.uh.edu Sat Oct 23 22:55:02 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13] ident=mail) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1CLSuk-00031V-00 for ; Sat, 23 Oct 2004 22:55:02 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1CLSuL-0007yc-00; Sat, 23 Oct 2004 15:54:37 -0500 Original-Received: from util2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.23]) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1CLSu9-0007yM-00 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Sat, 23 Oct 2004 15:54:25 -0500 Original-Received: from justine.libertine.org ([66.139.78.221] ident=postfix) by util2.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1CLSu7-00007G-Ti for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Sat, 23 Oct 2004 15:54:23 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org (quimby.gnus.org [80.91.224.244]) by justine.libertine.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A6C83A0014 for ; Sat, 23 Oct 2004 15:54:22 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from news by quimby.gnus.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1CLSu6-0000ry-00 for ; Sat, 23 Oct 2004 22:54:22 +0200 Original-To: ding@gnus.org Original-Path: not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnus.ding Original-Lines: 32 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: pd951fe02.dip.t-dialin.net Original-X-Trace: quimby.gnus.org 1098564862 874 217.81.254.2 (23 Oct 2004 20:54:22 GMT) Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@quimby.gnus.org Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2004 20:54:22 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.110003 (No Gnus v0.3) Emacs/21.3.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:xFJeOMUbkB2M7XZHFiaDyN/Nml4= Precedence: bulk Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:58962 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:58962 Reiner Steib <4.uce.03.r.s@nurfuerspam.de> writes: > On Thu, Sep 09 2004, Simon Josefsson wrote: > >> I forget, can someone remind me why nnir.el is in contrib/ and not >> lisp/? > > I vaguely remember something about missing or unclear copyright > assignments. But Kai or Christoph should know more. I once thought that there were other changes, but it turned out that Christoph was so productive that I thought he was three people ;-) Since Christoph and me both have the paperwork, it would be possible to incorporate nnir.el into the mainstream. However, I confess that I'm not that happy with nnir.el. The infrastructure sucks, especially regarding all the parameters that you have to set up. gnus-namazu.el manages to do things without any configuration. And then, it should support searching across servers, but for this one would need to specify a common query language and then translate that into the query language of each backend. (Of course, there should be a way to pass the query to the backend literally, for those cases where only one backend is involved.) That said, I don't want to denigrate people of something they find useful. Kai