From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/66249 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ted Zlatanov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Problems with gnus-registry Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2008 16:15:32 -0600 Organization: =?utf-8?B?0KLQtdC+0LTQvtGAINCX0LvQsNGC0LDQvdC+0LI=?= @ Cienfuegos Message-ID: <86myqfoxrv.fsf@lifelogs.com> References: <76sl0vma5q.fsf@dev-d01.ppllc.com> <86k5loxulw.fsf@lifelogs.com> <76tzkoq1t4.fsf@dev-d01.ppllc.com> <868x20wi2a.fsf@lifelogs.com> <76y7a0nyo3.fsf@dev-d01.ppllc.com> <86lk60uwwq.fsf@lifelogs.com> <764pconmz4.fsf@dev-d01.ppllc.com> <86abmfv3ig.fsf@lifelogs.com> <767ihjm5qn.fsf@dev-d01.ppllc.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1202249698 11792 80.91.229.12 (5 Feb 2008 22:14:58 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 22:14:58 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Ding Mailing List To: Jake Colman Original-X-From: ding-owner+M14740@lists.math.uh.edu Tue Feb 05 23:15:20 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JMW4U-00066I-6N for ding-account@gmane.org; Tue, 05 Feb 2008 23:15:18 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1JMW3n-0007FV-Dh; Tue, 05 Feb 2008 16:14:35 -0600 Original-Received: from mx2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.33]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1JMW3l-0007FA-Uv for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Tue, 05 Feb 2008 16:14:33 -0600 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx2.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1JMW3f-0005aU-Mz for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Tue, 05 Feb 2008 16:14:33 -0600 Original-Received: from mail.blockstar.com ([170.224.69.95]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1JMW3h-0004vo-00 for ; Tue, 05 Feb 2008 23:14:29 +0100 Original-Received: from tzlatanov-ubuntu-desktop.jumptrading.com (unknown [38.98.147.130]) by mail.blockstar.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 521753F8E19; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 14:49:36 -0800 (PST) X-Face: bd.DQ~'29fIs`T_%O%C\g%6jW)yi[zuz6;d4V0`@y-~$#3P_Ng{@m+e4o<4P'#(_GJQ%TT= D}[Ep*b!\e,fBZ'j_+#"Ps?s2!4H2-Y"sx" X-Hashcash: 1:20:080205:ding@gnus.org::YdhK1hKhY4nljuh2:00000YX3 X-Hashcash: 1:20:080205:colman@ppllc.com::tIgTBfRdX2mjNoCe:00Eei In-Reply-To: <767ihjm5qn.fsf@dev-d01.ppllc.com> (Jake Colman's message of "Tue, 05 Feb 2008 16:51:44 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110007 (No Gnus v0.7) Emacs/23.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:66249 Archived-At: On Tue, 05 Feb 2008 16:51:44 -0500 Jake Colman wrote: Jake> If I send an email, does the registry track anything about the sent email so Jake> that it knows where to possibly file a reply? Or is it only anything Jake> sent/received after that initial reply is processed (that is, that something Jake> was done to it to cause the registry to see it) that will be auto-filed by Jake> the registry? When you send an e-mail, there is no article and thus no group name for the registry to notice. If the article has a gcc, that will trigger the registry when the copy is spooled. The outgoing article in itself doesn't do anything, though. I could add a mail send hook to do this, but it could be incorrect. For instance, if you send to ding while in group A but you get a copy of the mail back into group B, You want followups in B but they'll go to A. Maybe if the outbound mail record was a low-priority hint it could work, but I don't like it much and I think it's confusing to users. Jake> Here is what I am getting to: Jake> 1) I sent an email from a specific group but nothing was entered into the Jake> registry at all. If so, how will replies end up in the same group? (I assume first you saved the registry file if you used grep on it) It depends on whether there was a gcc. Without gcc, nothing would be registered. Jake> 2) If I send email from the main gnus page (outside of any specific group) or Jake> from a group that does not specify a gcc-self, the email has an automatic Jake> gcc-self of an Archive group. In this way, I automatically have a copy of Jake> all emails that I send. Does this automatic copy to an Archive group mean Jake> that my replies might end up there as well? If so, that's an issue. I Jake> rarely, if ever, go to the Archive group unless I need to see when a Jake> message was sent. You can set your archive group to be ignored, see gnus-registry-ignored-groups. Jake> Related to my original problem, if I track the extras of subject and sender, Jake> are those guaranteed to work regardless of whether Exchange screws up the Jake> standard headers? They are not guaranteed: - if you trim your registry, records will be lost - subject and sender tracking is experimental and works OK for me, but you may discover bugs - multiple matches for a subject or a sender will disqualify the match, to avoid ambiguous results If you have ideas on improving any part of the registry, let me know what you think. Ted