From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/49905 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: merlyn@stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: road warrior trying to simplify a mail setup Date: 07 Feb 2003 10:13:44 -0800 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: <86n0l82c2v.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> References: <86fzr2ek0j.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <864r7g6e3h.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <86ptq44phn.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1044641594 21339 80.91.224.249 (7 Feb 2003 18:13:14 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 18:13:14 +0000 (UTC) Cc: "(ding)" Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18hCzc-0005WA-00 for ; Fri, 07 Feb 2003 19:12:52 +0100 Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu ([129.7.128.10] ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 18hD0u-0001Iq-00; Fri, 07 Feb 2003 12:14:12 -0600 Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Fri, 07 Feb 2003 12:15:09 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (sclp3.sclp.com [66.230.238.2]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA22528 for ; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 12:14:57 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: (qmail 57696 invoked by alias); 7 Feb 2003 18:13:56 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 57691 invoked from network); 7 Feb 2003 18:13:56 -0000 Original-Received: from red.stonehenge.com (postfix@65.208.40.162) by 66.230.238.6 with SMTP; 7 Feb 2003 18:13:56 -0000 Original-Received: by red.stonehenge.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 100498256C; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 10:13:45 -0800 (PST) Original-To: Stainless Steel Rat In-Reply-To: Original-Lines: 49 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.1 Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:49905 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:49905 >>>>> "Rat" == Stainless Steel Rat writes: Rat> | Your setup won't work. Thanks for the suggestions but it's not Rat> | applicable at all. Rat> I don't see the inapplicability, just the need for one more step: rsync Rat> your News and Mail dirctories and .newsrc files between your notebook and Rat> server as necessary and possible (ie, in your hotel room). Then you can Rat> use Gnus on your notebook when you can and on your server when necessary, Rat> and you have a backup of your notebook mail files in case the notebook is Rat> stolen or breaks. I'm not following the workflow. When I'm on the road, I'm not about to pull 1100 messages a day down over IMAP to my laptop at 28.8, only to push them back up at 28.8 using rsync just to keep the two archives in sync, or on the possibility that my next email reading will be laptop-less. Maybe it's just the sketchiness of your descriptions. As we all say, "the devil is in the details", and you left those out, or didn't think through the implications. Well, I *have* been, and I still don't have a clean complete solution yet. That's why I started the thread. You're retreading the first work that I started, but I'm already past that, and have ruled some of those solutions out. Do I need to restate the goals? Here they are, just in case: 0) I get 1100 messages a day, which I sort by a Perl filter. 1) sometimes my laptop is connected, sometimes it isn't. 2) when it's connected, sometimes it's broadband, sometimes it's 28.8 where I'm paying by the minute. 3) most of the time, I'll be emailing while my laptop is connected. 4) sometimes I wanna answer email on my laptop when it's disconnected. 5) sometimes I wanna answer email at an internet cafe (no laptop) by ssh'ing into my server 6) a bonus would be answering email in a web interface, in case I can't get Putty or MindTerm to work (rarer these days) I'm doing everything but 4 and 6 by my current setup (no live mail on laptop, just ssh to server). I wanna know what my options are to add #4, and maybe #6. The "IMAP" stuff sounded like it was heading in the right direction, mixed with offline reader mode. But I need to know what the downsides are, compared to what I've been using. -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 Perl/Unix/security consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See PerlTraining.Stonehenge.com for onsite and open-enrollment Perl training!