From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/67573 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ted Zlatanov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general,gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: gnus should accept UTF8 even if UTF-8 is standard Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 15:50:41 -0500 Organization: =?utf-8?B?0KLQtdC+0LTQvtGAINCX0LvQsNGC0LDQvdC+0LI=?= @ Cienfuegos Message-ID: <86od1mj3z2.fsf@lifelogs.com> References: <87iqruvs19.fsf@jidanni.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1224017505 26926 80.91.229.12 (14 Oct 2008 20:51:45 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 20:51:45 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Ding Mailing List , Emacs Development Original-X-From: ding-owner+M16024@lists.math.uh.edu Tue Oct 14 22:52:42 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Kpqsk-0001on-7n for ding-account@gmane.org; Tue, 14 Oct 2008 22:52:42 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KpqrP-0000RK-UP; Tue, 14 Oct 2008 15:51:19 -0500 Original-Received: from mx2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.33]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KpqrO-0000R4-Lv for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Tue, 14 Oct 2008 15:51:18 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx2.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1KpqrK-0005gC-RQ for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Tue, 14 Oct 2008 15:51:18 -0500 Original-Received: from [38.98.147.130] (helo=internalsmtp.w2k.jumptrading.com) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1KpqrR-0006Ia-00 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2008 22:51:21 +0200 Original-Received: from tzlatanov-ubuntu-desktop.jumptrading.com ([10.2.21.134]) by internalsmtp.w2k.jumptrading.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Tue, 14 Oct 2008 15:50:42 -0500 X-Hashcash: 1:20:081014:ding@gnus.org::4byzCH+HFigId5ac:00004CXs X-Hashcash: 1:20:081014:emacs-devel@gnu.org::tGtm8WC02lcl1c3/:0000000000000000000000000000000000000000006/+x X-Face: bd.DQ~'29fIs`T_%O%C\g%6jW)yi[zuz6;d4V0`@y-~$#3P_Ng{@m+e4o<4P'#(_GJQ%TT= D}[Ep*b!\e,fBZ'j_+#"Ps?s2!4H2-Y"sx" In-Reply-To: <87iqruvs19.fsf@jidanni.org> (jidanni@jidanni.org's message of "Wed, 15 Oct 2008 04:30:10 +0800") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110011 (No Gnus v0.11) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Oct 2008 20:50:42.0522 (UTC) FILETIME=[85D923A0:01C92E3E] X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:67573 gmane.emacs.devel:104516 Archived-At: On Wed, 15 Oct 2008 04:30:10 +0800 jidanni@jidanni.org wrote: j> Gnus cannot deal with j> From: =?UTF8?B?5b+g576p5Z+66YeR5pyD?= j> From: =?UTF-8?B?5b+g576p5Z+66YeR5pyD?= j> One needs ^a dash here. Mutt has no problem. j> Same with utf8 vs. utf-8. j> How can one add utf8 and UTF8 as aliases in one's .gnus.el awaiting j> your fix to filter down? I thinks this should work. Can you test it? (define-coding-system-alias 'utf8 'utf-8) (define-coding-system-alias 'UTF8 'utf-8) I think if this is to be fixed, it's in Emacs (lisp/international/mule-conf.el). I don't know if it's been discussed before (I did a search, no results except for some BBDB issues) so I'm CCing emacs-devel as well. The fix seems reasonable to me as a user convenience. It's very unlikely it will cause problems. But I don't know for sure, so please tell me if I'm wrong. Ted