From: Wayne Harris <wharris1@protonmail.com>
To: ding@gnus.org
Subject: Re: is there a possibility for gnus to download data without blocking?
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2020 12:52:56 -0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <86pn7iad9j.fsf@protonmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87sgcf558u.fsf@dick>
dick.r.chiang@gmail.com writes:
> I am gratified someone studied my changes.
:-)
> WH> CODA ... and it's not clear what it is or what it does.
>
> CODA merely updates the message counts in *Group* after retrieval threads
> complete.
Why is it called CODA and where is the definition of the procedure?
> WH> But I think the real thing you wanted to know was how he would handle, for
> WH> the situation the intermixing of different servers returning data ...
>
> As the 90s pop song goes, one has to "keep'em separated."
I think that's ``Come Out and Play'', by Offspring, or something like
that. :-)
> This means making "total war" on the monolithicity of the summary,
> article, and nntp buffers which Gnus has since inception assumed
> global singletons.
My idea is that nearly everything stays as it is. I think the only
thing that should be ``parallelized'' is the download of data from nntp
servers.
> WH> Same strategy as dickmao's, but using processes, not threads.
> WH> If so, it would be way better if [Gnus] just wouldn't block. Maybe we
> WH> don't need dickmao's threads after all.
>
> As EA previously stated, shunting all retrieval logic to a separate process B
> still poses the serious problem of integrating B's results in
> the main process A.
Yes, but I guess the difficulty is nearly the same you're facing with
your threads. You have to manage the threads; you'd have to manage the
processes. Are you saying threads are easier to manage than processes?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-08-22 15:54 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-08-21 4:06 Wayne Harris
2020-08-21 4:39 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2020-08-21 10:31 ` dick.r.chiang
2020-08-21 17:42 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2020-08-21 14:18 ` Wayne Harris
2020-08-21 17:16 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2020-08-21 20:30 ` Wayne Harris
2020-08-22 2:27 ` Wayne Harris
2020-08-22 10:45 ` dick.r.chiang
2020-08-22 15:52 ` Wayne Harris [this message]
2020-08-22 16:11 ` dick.r.chiang
2020-08-22 17:07 ` Eric Abrahamsen
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