So ok, something must be echoing these XOVER commands, but what the heck could it be? As a reminder, here is my select method: (setq gnus-select-method '(nntp "news.ps.uni-sb.de" (nntp-address "news.ps.uni-sb.de") (nntp-via-rlogin-command "ssh") (nntp-via-rlogin-command-switches ("-t")) (nntp-via-user-name "duchier") (nntp-via-address "grizzly.ps.uni-sb.de") (nntp-end-of-line "\n") (nntp-open-connection-function nntp-open-via-rlogin-and-telnet))) I tried adding "-E" to the nntp-telnet-switches but that did not seem to help. Cheers, -- Dr. Denys Duchier Équipe Calligramme LORIA, Nancy, FRANCE