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From: Steinar Bang <sb@dod.no>
To: ding@gnus.org
Subject: Re: IMAP changes timestamp when moving an article to another group
Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2017 09:47:53 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <86shfwcnyu.fsf@dod.no> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <86h8whdswa.fsf@dod.no>

>>>>> Steinar Bang <sb@dod.no>:


> Does anyone know what happened to this issue?

> I haven't dared expire or move stuff in my nnimap folders for the last
> year or so...

To summarize: When expiring, or moving with "B m" messages between
nnimap on a dovecot server, the date is displayed wrongly in other IMAP
clients.

The Date: header on the message itself is unchanged, but the
INTERNALDATE gets the time of the move/copy operation.

Dovecot allows the INTERNALDATE to be specified during a copy (see Timo
Siriainens last reply text in [1]), and the feature request is that nnimap
specifices the INTERNALDATE during a copy.

I've looked at the git log of nnimap.el and it doesn't look like
anything related to this has been done since august 2016[2].

In fact, these two changes from march 2016 may be the cause of the date
not being preserved on move/expiry, since Timo Siriainen seems to
indicate that dovecot by default preserves the INTERNALDATE in a MOVE
between folders on the same server (see Timo Siriainens first reply text
in [1]), from the git log of nnimap.el:

commit d5427e71da28856c5e43396a37ffd0c906947499
Author: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>
Date:   Mon Mar 14 20:23:30 2016 +0100

    Disable MOVE more for Dovecot

    * lisp/gnus/nnimap.el (nnimap-process-expiry-targets): Also
    disable MOVE when expirying.
    (nnimap-split-incoming-mail): And when splitting mail.

commit 8ed27bdf88cab134c26f3609c4d11c574f74705c
Author: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>
Date:   Mon Mar 14 20:21:02 2016 +0100

    Don't use MOVE on Dovecot

    * lisp/gnus/nnimap.el (nnimap-request-move-article): Don't use
    MOVE on Dovecot, since it's broken in many versions.
    (nnimap-quirks): Mark MOVE on Dovecot as non-working.


References:
[1] <https://www.dovecot.org/list/dovecot/2008-July/032170.html>
[2] <http://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs.git/log/lisp/gnus/nnimap.el>





  reply	other threads:[~2017-09-09  7:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-01-15  2:36 notmuch is limited to a single local mail store, right? myglc2
2016-01-15  3:28 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2016-01-15 12:46   ` myglc2
2016-01-15 13:12     ` Erik Colson
2016-01-15 16:43       ` myglc2
2016-02-06  0:06         ` gnus async prefetch and nnimap Erik Colson
2016-02-06  1:13           ` Eric Abrahamsen
2016-02-06  1:15             ` Eric Abrahamsen
2016-08-01 21:29               ` IMAP changes timestamp when moving an article to another group Erik Colson
2016-08-01 23:49                 ` Greg Troxel
2016-08-05 19:21                   ` Steinar Bang
2016-08-16 13:22                     ` Erik Colson
2017-09-05 16:14                       ` Steinar Bang
2017-09-09  7:47                         ` Steinar Bang [this message]
2017-09-09 15:12                           ` Eric Abrahamsen
2017-09-10 10:03                             ` Steinar Bang
2017-09-14 22:29                               ` Eric Abrahamsen
2017-09-15 15:42                                 ` Steinar Bang
2017-09-15 21:52                                   ` Eric Abrahamsen
2018-04-11 20:25                                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-04-11 22:08                                       ` Eric Abrahamsen
2016-01-15  5:30 ` notmuch is limited to a single local mail store, right? Adam Sjøgren
2016-01-15  7:49   ` Alan Schmitt
2016-01-15  8:17     ` Adam Sjøgren
2016-01-15 13:03       ` myglc2
2016-01-16  3:56         ` myglc2
2016-01-15 12:50   ` myglc2
2016-01-15 14:25     ` Peter Münster
2016-01-15 19:19     ` Adam Sjøgren
2016-01-15 20:21     ` Adam Sjøgren
2016-01-16  3:47       ` myglc2

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