From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/87146 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Endless impression~ Gnus' citation style.. Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2016 02:27:23 +0200 Message-ID: <86vb025v6c.fsf@student.uu.se> References: <9FD4EC76-7C11-4C93-8059-EB305BA9583F@yw.doraji.xyz> <861t2r826h.fsf@student.uu.se> <87h9bn9cp1.fsf@yale.edu> <86vb027mtq.fsf@student.uu.se> <8760s2adqh.fsf@yale.edu> <86oa5u7fgc.fsf@student.uu.se> <86eg6q7eb5.fsf@student.uu.se> <87a8hecxzs.fsf@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1468888094 28965 80.91.229.3 (19 Jul 2016 00:28:14 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2016 00:28:14 +0000 (UTC) To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M35366@lists.math.uh.edu Tue Jul 19 02:28:03 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from lists1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.208]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1bPItC-00048T-4B for ding-account@gmane.org; Tue, 19 Jul 2016 02:27:58 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by lists1.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bPIsx-00068C-Q6; Mon, 18 Jul 2016 19:27:43 -0500 Original-Received: from mx2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.33]) by lists1.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bPIsv-00067X-1Z for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Mon, 18 Jul 2016 19:27:41 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx2.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1.2:DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bPIss-0006hI-Ng for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Mon, 18 Jul 2016 19:27:40 -0500 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1bPIsr-00053A-50 for ding@gnus.org; Tue, 19 Jul 2016 02:27:37 +0200 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1bPIsp-0003se-E8 for ding@gnus.org; Tue, 19 Jul 2016 02:27:35 +0200 Original-Received: from c-9ce1e655.08-680-7570702.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se ([85.230.225.156]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 19 Jul 2016 02:27:35 +0200 Original-Received: from embe8573 by c-9ce1e655.08-680-7570702.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 19 Jul 2016 02:27:35 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: ding@gnus.org Original-Lines: 37 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: c-9ce1e655.08-680-7570702.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4 (gnu/linux) Mail-Copies-To: never Cancel-Lock: sha1:uz+Ldl8zirU8kLopQ291O5TqbCQ= X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:87146 Archived-At: Dmitry Alexandrov [321942(a)gmail.com] writes: > Sure. Message-IDs are pseudo-unique, so you > should be able to jump to a message by its > ID. Gnus’ built-in function to do that is > called ‘gnus-summary-refer-article’. OK, I always did that by using the summary directly, but why not? > By the way, that’s why is so important to > preserve IDs intact all its way. And that is > exactly what ‘news.gnu.org’ mail-to-news > gateway, that you are familiar to, fails to > do; so when one posts a reply to an article > on, for example, ‘gnu.emacs.help’ newsgroup, > subscribers of ‘help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org’ > mailing list receive broken threads (but not > the vice versa). I have heard many people talk about that gateway, but I have never seen the actual software or heard of any efforts to debug it. Instead of being hysterical about people using gnu.emacs.help, which is a good thing, the efforts should be focused at solving the problem, which (again, according to what I've heard), isn't with gnu.emacs.help but with the gateway. "Use the source, Luke!" -- underground experts united .... http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573 Emacs Gnus Blogomatic ......... http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573/blogomatic - so far: 58 Blogomatic articles -