* spam.el binds too many keys to `gnus-summary-mark-as-spam'
@ 2008-03-30 12:00 Reiner Steib
2008-03-31 14:09 ` Ted Zlatanov
0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Reiner Steib @ 2008-03-30 12:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Ted Zlatanov; +Cc: ding
Hi,
`gnus-summary-mark-as-spam' is bound to M-d, S x, and M s x. What a
waste of key bindings! ;-)
(gnus-define-keys gnus-summary-mode-map
"St" spam-generic-score
"Sx" gnus-summary-mark-as-spam
"Mst" spam-generic-score
"Msx" gnus-summary-mark-as-spam
"\M-d" gnus-summary-mark-as-spam)
I think each command (gnus-summary-mark-as-spam and
spam-generic-score) should have only _one_ binding by default. If the
user wants a shorter one, (s)he can always use the user-reserved keys
(Emacs: `C-c [A-Za-z]', Gnus: `v ...').
Bye, Reiner.
--
,,,
(o o)
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* Re: spam.el binds too many keys to `gnus-summary-mark-as-spam'
2008-03-30 12:00 spam.el binds too many keys to `gnus-summary-mark-as-spam' Reiner Steib
@ 2008-03-31 14:09 ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-04-01 8:44 ` Johan Bockgård
0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Ted Zlatanov @ 2008-03-31 14:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Gnus
On Sun, 30 Mar 2008 14:00:10 +0200 Reiner Steib <reinersteib+gmane@imap.cc> wrote:
RS> `gnus-summary-mark-as-spam' is bound to M-d, S x, and M s x. What a
RS> waste of key bindings! ;-)
RS> (gnus-define-keys gnus-summary-mode-map
RS> "St" spam-generic-score
RS> "Sx" gnus-summary-mark-as-spam
RS> "Mst" spam-generic-score
RS> "Msx" gnus-summary-mark-as-spam
RS> "\M-d" gnus-summary-mark-as-spam)
RS> I think each command (gnus-summary-mark-as-spam and
RS> spam-generic-score) should have only _one_ binding by default. If the
RS> user wants a shorter one, (s)he can always use the user-reserved keys
RS> (Emacs: `C-c [A-Za-z]', Gnus: `v ...').
I think those keys were chosen by consensus because several people liked
different bindings. I think `S x' should be the default, and
Mst/Msx/M-d should go away, but I really don't have strong feelings for
any of those key bindings. I use C-s personally, FWIW, because it's
such a useful operation.
Ted
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* Re: spam.el binds too many keys to `gnus-summary-mark-as-spam'
2008-03-31 14:09 ` Ted Zlatanov
@ 2008-04-01 8:44 ` Johan Bockgård
2008-04-20 12:32 ` Reiner Steib
0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Johan Bockgård @ 2008-04-01 8:44 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ding
Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> writes:
> I think those keys were chosen by consensus because several people
> liked different bindings. I think `S x' should be the default, and
> Mst/Msx/M-d should go away, but I really don't have strong feelings
> for any of those key bindings. I use C-s personally, FWIW, because
> it's such a useful operation.
I use $.
--
Johan Bockgård
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* Re: spam.el binds too many keys to `gnus-summary-mark-as-spam'
2008-04-01 8:44 ` Johan Bockgård
@ 2008-04-20 12:32 ` Reiner Steib
2008-04-21 16:46 ` Ted Zlatanov
0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Reiner Steib @ 2008-04-20 12:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ding
On Tue, Apr 01 2008, Johan Bockgård wrote:
> Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> writes:
>> I think those keys were chosen by consensus because several people
>> liked different bindings.
If we'd use this policy ("several people like different bindings"), we
will end up with no available bindings very soon.
>> I think `S x' should be the default, and Mst/Msx/M-d should go
>> away, but I really don't have strong feelings for any of those key
>> bindings. I use C-s personally, FWIW, because it's such a useful
>> operation.
Thinking more about it, I think that the `S ...' bindings are
completely misplaced. All other `S ...' are replying/posting related.
| (gnus-define-keys gnus-summary-mode-map
| "St" spam-generic-score
| "Sx" gnus-summary-mark-as-spam
| "Mst" spam-generic-score
| "Msx" gnus-summary-mark-as-spam
| "\M-d" gnus-summary-mark-as-spam)
> I use $.
Me too. ;-)
But I'm talking about the default key bindings which also occupy
bindings for users not using `spam.el' at all.
Bye, Reiner.
--
,,,
(o o)
---ooO-(_)-Ooo--- | PGP key available | http://rsteib.home.pages.de/
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* Re: spam.el binds too many keys to `gnus-summary-mark-as-spam'
2008-04-20 12:32 ` Reiner Steib
@ 2008-04-21 16:46 ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-04-21 17:06 ` Reiner Steib
0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Ted Zlatanov @ 2008-04-21 16:46 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Gnus
On Sun, 20 Apr 2008 14:32:05 +0200 Reiner Steib <reinersteib+gmane@imap.cc> wrote:
RS> On Tue, Apr 01 2008, Johan Bockgård wrote:
>> Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> writes:
>>> I think those keys were chosen by consensus because several people
>>> liked different bindings.
RS> If we'd use this policy ("several people like different bindings"), we
RS> will end up with no available bindings very soon.
I was not proposing that policy, only reminiscing.
>>> I think `S x' should be the default, and Mst/Msx/M-d should go
>>> away, but I really don't have strong feelings for any of those key
>>> bindings. I use C-s personally, FWIW, because it's such a useful
>>> operation.
RS> Thinking more about it, I think that the `S ...' bindings are
RS> completely misplaced. All other `S ...' are replying/posting related.
RS> | (gnus-define-keys gnus-summary-mode-map
RS> | "St" spam-generic-score
RS> | "Sx" gnus-summary-mark-as-spam
RS> | "Mst" spam-generic-score
RS> | "Msx" gnus-summary-mark-as-spam
RS> | "\M-d" gnus-summary-mark-as-spam)
>> I use $.
RS> Me too. ;-)
RS> But I'm talking about the default key bindings which also occupy
RS> bindings for users not using `spam.el' at all.
My point about C-s was that most users will bind it to something shorter
quickly. I really don't have any attachment to the current bindings.
Maybe `,' (comma) would work? I could get used to `,,' (comma + comma)
for gnus-summary-mark-as-spam, and `,=' (comma + equals) for
spam-generic-score. I don't know the Emacs + Gnus conventions, though,
so this may be a bad idea.
Ted
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* Re: spam.el binds too many keys to `gnus-summary-mark-as-spam'
2008-04-21 16:46 ` Ted Zlatanov
@ 2008-04-21 17:06 ` Reiner Steib
2008-04-23 17:58 ` Ted Zlatanov
0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Reiner Steib @ 2008-04-21 17:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ding
On Mon, Apr 21 2008, Ted Zlatanov wrote:
> Maybe `,' (comma) would work?
comma is already taken: gnus-summary-best-unread-article
> I could get used to `,,' (comma + comma) for
> gnus-summary-mark-as-spam, and `,=' (comma + equals) for
> spam-generic-score. I don't know the Emacs + Gnus conventions,
> though, so this may be a bad idea.
Bye, Reiner.
--
,,,
(o o)
---ooO-(_)-Ooo--- | PGP key available | http://rsteib.home.pages.de/
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* Re: spam.el binds too many keys to `gnus-summary-mark-as-spam'
2008-04-21 17:06 ` Reiner Steib
@ 2008-04-23 17:58 ` Ted Zlatanov
0 siblings, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Ted Zlatanov @ 2008-04-23 17:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ding
On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 19:06:27 +0200 Reiner Steib <reinersteib+gmane@imap.cc> wrote:
RS> On Mon, Apr 21 2008, Ted Zlatanov wrote:
>> Maybe `,' (comma) would work?
RS> comma is already taken: gnus-summary-best-unread-article
>> I could get used to `,,' (comma + comma) for
>> gnus-summary-mark-as-spam, and `,=' (comma + equals) for
>> spam-generic-score. I don't know the Emacs + Gnus conventions,
>> though, so this may be a bad idea.
How about a single quote as the prefix:
'' gnus-summary-mark-as-spam
'= spam-generic-score
If that's not good, can you think of something please?
Ted
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