* Articles marked as read without reading them
@ 2003-11-03 21:59 Jon Ericson
2003-11-03 23:19 ` Alan Shutko
2003-11-04 13:41 ` Robert Epprecht
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From: Jon Ericson @ 2003-11-03 21:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
I've got a group with lots of unread messages (so I can remember to do
something about them once I've read them). Sometimes I only want to
see, say, the last 10 messages. So from the *Group* buffer I do a
M-10 RET to enter the group. Then I read the messages I'm interested
in and quit the *Summary* buffer by hitting `q'. I haven't noticed
anything wrong with this until today when suddenly a bunch of old
messages, that didn't get displayed in the *Summary* buffer, were
marked as read. I can't, unfortunately, reproduce this behavior
though. :( Does anyone know what might be causing this, where I can
look in the code, or can tell me what I'm doing wrong?
Thanks,
Jon
--
But if serving the LORD seems undesirable to you, then choose for
yourselves this day whom you will serve . . . But as for me and my
household, we will serve the LORD.
-- Joshua 24:15 (NIV)
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* Re: Articles marked as read without reading them
2003-11-03 21:59 Articles marked as read without reading them Jon Ericson
@ 2003-11-03 23:19 ` Alan Shutko
2003-11-04 2:26 ` Jon Ericson
2003-11-04 13:41 ` Robert Epprecht
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From: Alan Shutko @ 2003-11-03 23:19 UTC (permalink / raw)
Jon Ericson <Jon.Ericson@jpl.nasa.gov> writes:
> I haven't noticed anything wrong with this until today when suddenly
> a bunch of old messages, that didn't get displayed in the *Summary*
> buffer, were marked as read.
Do you have adaptive scoring on? That's the simplest explanation for
things being marked as read without you actually seeing them.
--
Alan Shutko <ats@acm.org> - I am the rocks.
PUNNY BOOK = Home Alone III, The Sequel: Eddie Buddyhome.
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* Re: Articles marked as read without reading them
2003-11-03 23:19 ` Alan Shutko
@ 2003-11-04 2:26 ` Jon Ericson
2003-11-04 2:34 ` Jon Ericson
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From: Jon Ericson @ 2003-11-04 2:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
Alan Shutko <ats@acm.org> writes:
> Jon Ericson <Jon.Ericson@jpl.nasa.gov> writes:
>
>> I haven't noticed anything wrong with this until today when suddenly
>> a bunch of old messages, that didn't get displayed in the *Summary*
>> buffer, were marked as read.
>
> Do you have adaptive scoring on? That's the simplest explanation for
> things being marked as read without you actually seeing them.
I do, but I'd be surprised if that were the cause. For on thing my
gnus-summary-mark-below is set to -1000, and my adaptive scoring rules
are very small adjustments. Also it seems odd that articles which
don't appear in the *Summary* buffer would be scored or marked at all.
On further inspection, that can't be the reason as the articles in
question have a slightly positive scores.
Any other ideas?
Jon
--
But if serving the LORD seems undesirable to you, then choose for
yourselves this day whom you will serve . . . But as for me and my
household, we will serve the LORD.
-- Joshua 24:15 (NIV)
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* Re: Articles marked as read without reading them
2003-11-04 2:26 ` Jon Ericson
@ 2003-11-04 2:34 ` Jon Ericson
2003-11-07 21:33 ` Ted Zlatanov
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From: Jon Ericson @ 2003-11-04 2:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
Jon Ericson <Jon.Ericson@jpl.nasa.gov> writes:
> Alan Shutko <ats@acm.org> writes:
>
>> Do you have adaptive scoring on? That's the simplest explanation for
>> things being marked as read without you actually seeing them.
> Any other ideas?
Just to be clear, it's a nnml group with no expire variables set.
Jon
--
But if serving the LORD seems undesirable to you, then choose for
yourselves this day whom you will serve . . . But as for me and my
household, we will serve the LORD.
-- Joshua 24:15 (NIV)
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* Re: Articles marked as read without reading them
2003-11-03 21:59 Articles marked as read without reading them Jon Ericson
2003-11-03 23:19 ` Alan Shutko
@ 2003-11-04 13:41 ` Robert Epprecht
1 sibling, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Robert Epprecht @ 2003-11-04 13:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
Jon Ericson <Jon.Ericson@jpl.nasa.gov> writes:
> I've got a group with lots of unread messages [...]
> suddenly a bunch of old messages, that didn't get displayed in the
> *Summary* buffer, were marked as read.
> Does anyone know what might be causing this, where I can
> look in the code, or can tell me what I'm doing wrong?
I don't think you did anything wrong, as some people have seen and
reported this before. I have seen it several times in nnml groups.
In my case there was no adaptive scoring involved and nothing like
M-10 RETURN either. The messages had just been split into the group
where they showed up marked as read (or *didn't* show up depending on
group/topic parameters, which was especially annoing...)
Robert Epprecht
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* Re: Articles marked as read without reading them
2003-11-04 2:34 ` Jon Ericson
@ 2003-11-07 21:33 ` Ted Zlatanov
2003-11-09 6:34 ` Andreas Jaeger
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From: Ted Zlatanov @ 2003-11-07 21:33 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: ding
On Mon, 03 Nov 2003, Jon.Ericson@jpl.nasa.gov wrote:
> Just to be clear, it's a nnml group with no expire variables set.
I get this behavior too - I lose the "unread" marks and they become
"read" occasionally, but there's no apparent reason other than
entering the group with C-u NUMBER Enter instead of Enter.
It just happened in my nnimap ding group. I can't remember what
messages are erroenously marked read now, because I wasn't paying
attention :(
Ted
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* Re: Articles marked as read without reading them
2003-11-07 21:33 ` Ted Zlatanov
@ 2003-11-09 6:34 ` Andreas Jaeger
2003-11-10 15:58 ` Ted Zlatanov
2003-11-13 5:41 ` Robert Epprecht
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From: Andreas Jaeger @ 2003-11-09 6:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: ding
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Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> writes:
> On Mon, 03 Nov 2003, Jon.Ericson@jpl.nasa.gov wrote:
>
>> Just to be clear, it's a nnml group with no expire variables set.
>
> I get this behavior too - I lose the "unread" marks and they become
> "read" occasionally, but there's no apparent reason other than
> entering the group with C-u NUMBER Enter instead of Enter.
I also have the impression that C-u NUMBER Enter is the culprit - I
have this problem occasionally in groups where I do so...
Andreas
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* Re: Articles marked as read without reading them
2003-11-09 6:34 ` Andreas Jaeger
@ 2003-11-10 15:58 ` Ted Zlatanov
2003-11-13 5:41 ` Robert Epprecht
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From: Ted Zlatanov @ 2003-11-10 15:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: Jon Ericson, ding
On Sun, 09 Nov 2003, aj@suse.de wrote:
> Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> writes:
>
>> On Mon, 03 Nov 2003, Jon.Ericson@jpl.nasa.gov wrote:
>>
>>> Just to be clear, it's a nnml group with no expire variables set.
>>
>> I get this behavior too - I lose the "unread" marks and they become
>> "read" occasionally, but there's no apparent reason other than
>> entering the group with C-u NUMBER Enter instead of Enter.
>
> I also have the impression that C-u NUMBER Enter is the culprit - I
> have this problem occasionally in groups where I do so...
What's annoying is that this is very sporadic, so I haven't been able
to repeat it consistently. I could, for instance, save the list of
unread articles every time I enter a group, but that wouldn't tell me
where the bug is actually happening.
Ted
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* Re: Articles marked as read without reading them
2003-11-09 6:34 ` Andreas Jaeger
2003-11-10 15:58 ` Ted Zlatanov
@ 2003-11-13 5:41 ` Robert Epprecht
1 sibling, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Robert Epprecht @ 2003-11-13 5:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
Andreas Jaeger <aj@suse.de> writes:
> Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> writes:
>
>> On Mon, 03 Nov 2003, Jon.Ericson@jpl.nasa.gov wrote:
>>
>>> Just to be clear, it's a nnml group with no expire variables set.
>>
>> I get this behavior too - I lose the "unread" marks and they become
>> "read" occasionally, but there's no apparent reason other than
>> entering the group with C-u NUMBER Enter instead of Enter.
>
> I also have the impression that C-u NUMBER Enter is the culprit - I
> have this problem occasionally in groups where I do so...
No, I *never* use 'C-u NUMBER Enter' but *have* seen it multiple times.
Robert Epprecht.
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