From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/40584 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jack Twilley Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: PGP/GPG and AOL Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 12:08:36 -0800 Organization: Gnus Information Center Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: <86vgfuk69n.fsf@duchess.twilley.org> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035176112 1728 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 04:55:12 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 04:55:12 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: (qmail 16283 invoked from network); 28 Nov 2001 20:10:08 -0000 Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu (mail@129.7.128.13) by mastaler.com with SMTP; 28 Nov 2001 20:10:08 -0000 Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu ([129.7.128.10] ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 169B14-0006W0-00; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 14:09:10 -0600 Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Wed, 28 Nov 2001 14:08:52 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (qmailr@sclp3.sclp.com [209.196.61.66]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA02262 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 14:08:39 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: (qmail 16259 invoked by alias); 28 Nov 2001 20:08:44 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 16254 invoked from network); 28 Nov 2001 20:08:44 -0000 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org (HELO quimby2.netfonds.no) (195.204.10.66) by gnus.org with SMTP; 28 Nov 2001 20:08:44 -0000 Original-Received: from news by quimby2.netfonds.no with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 169B1N-0002Hg-00 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 21:09:29 +0100 Original-To: ding@gnus.org Original-Path: not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnus.ding Original-Lines: 83 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: dsl081-068-081.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net Original-X-Trace: quimby2.netfonds.no 1006978169 8783 64.81.68.81 (28 Nov 2001 20:09:29 GMT) Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@quimby2.netfonds.no Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: 28 Nov 2001 20:09:29 GMT X-Attribution: Jack X-PGP-Key: 0x007F7B38 X-PGP-Fingerprint: 5315 7434 6095 DF36 995B 3407 18F1 527C 007F 7B38 X-Face: .NHAX*9Wpk.L>*/dOY%Tx85BIb;aN`:H*I7y}qDK{(&Q(zjfnli]\}|xh+mpp22}~9u.T[[ zaK{BFgnXg'rBY+GiwLccR(O/iXq"_Fhrx0+%!1N}?D(mT{T$n_q}f`!f\(,@dR~*x&{_Zn^Qm)6rV ]E,6z3JLm6k<9>^9kg:#TU-S'a3{@c,rcT7YF`M*cCg_S0e1=C?!^kg-Wy]f+Xjpe#gB]>#xi= sa4'F#mX[QH^5}1B$0.s"6Y0R["ypG0mIe;8R6H_W]*_c:1|0Z^FgjUA?dCr`b[TX>>>> "Simon" == Simon Josefsson writes: Jack> I helped an AOL user install WinPT on her machine, but when she Jack> sent me an encrypted message, Gnus and gpg.el didn't DTRT. Simon> Could you give some more details on what Gnus/gpg.el did and Simon> did not do? Jack> What Gnus and gpg.el did not do was to take the content of Jack> either part of the multipart message and offer to decrypt it and Jack> display the decrypted contents. Simon> What happened instead? What was displayed? Did `K b' help? Nothing happened. What was displayed was the PGP-encrypted message. When I used `K b', it offered me a choice between text/plain (what was displayed) and text/html (which I can't view anyway until I get w3 working). Jack> Turns out that AOL sends multipart messages -- text and HTML -- Jack> and there's no known way to force it to send only text. Simon> Shouldn't be a problem. Jack> You'd think. I've got an open case with AOL because first and Jack> second level helpdesk folks weren't able to tell me how to do Jack> that. Simon> Oh, I meant it shouldn't be a problem for Gnus. To get AOL to Simon> do something is probably more difficult, yes. :-) I suspect the check to see if we need to do fun PGP stuff should be moved to after choosing which part to display and displaying it. But then again, I don't know which place is the right place, as one could conceivably encrypt a multipart message. Both, perhaps? Jack> Does anyone out here have an easy way to have Gnus and gpg.el Jack> check the contents of a multipart message to see if they're Jack> encrypted, and offer to decrypt them? Simon> Gnus should do this by default, controlled by Simon> `mm-decrypt-option'. Jack> Mine's set to nil, which means "ask user" according to the docs. Jack> I was not asked. Simon> Then Gnus didn't regard it as encrypted, which could be a bug. Sounds good to me. Simon> The best would be if you could arrange to send a encrypted mail Simon> from the AOL account to bugs@gnus.org and I could try to see Simon> what is wrong. Would it be acceptable for me to forward the received message? Jack> While the "right" solution is to fix AOL, the more probable Jack> solution seems to be to fix Gnus or gpg.el -- does anyone know Jack> what's wrong or how to fix it? I'll help debug the problem if Jack> people can give me generic pointers on just what to do, as I'm Jack> unfamiliar with this particular subsystem. Simon> The generic hint is to use elp-instrument-package to find out Simon> which functions are called when you display the message, and Simon> then edebug some of likely functions to find out what is Simon> happening. (Functions named *crypt*, *secur* are good Simon> candidates, if you can't find any, just edebug everything in Simon> mm-*.el.) It takes some time to get to know the code though. Okay, I'll poke about a bit. On a completely unrelated topic: I read ding gnus from quimby. What do I need to do to add whatever header is necessary to keep folks from emailing responses to the ding list and to me? I feel at a loss -- I don't know if I need "Mail-Followup-To: never" or what, let alone where to fix gnus to automatically stick it in with each ding message. Jack. -- Jack Twilley jmt at twilley dot org http colon slash slash www dot twilley dot org slash tilde jmt slash