From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/67661 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ted Zlatanov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel,gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: gnus should accept UTF8 even if UTF-8 is standard Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 11:00:18 -0500 Organization: =?utf-8?B?0KLQtdC+0LTQvtGAINCX0LvQsNGC0LDQvdC+0LI=?= @ Cienfuegos Message-ID: <86wsg2546l.fsf@lifelogs.com> References: <87iqruvs19.fsf@jidanni.org> <86od1mj3z2.fsf@lifelogs.com> <86od1lg3xq.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87d4i1iqpq.fsf@marauder.physik.uni-ulm.de> <86k5c9fzm9.fsf@lifelogs.com> <878wsph5xr.fsf@marauder.physik.uni-ulm.de> <87wsg345oo.fsf@marauder.physik.uni-ulm.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1224605473 1600 80.91.229.12 (21 Oct 2008 16:11:13 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 16:11:13 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ding@gnus.org To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Oct 21 18:12:12 2008 connect(): Connection refused Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KsJnu-0000jI-Sc for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 18:09:55 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50632 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KsJmp-0004Zb-AD for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 12:08:47 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KsJjN-0002n0-RT for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 12:05:13 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KsJjM-0002mB-4B for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 12:05:13 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=48591 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KsJjL-0002m0-SF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 12:05:11 -0400 Original-Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.229.2]:45714 helo=ciao.gmane.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KsJjL-0008IH-FK for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 12:05:11 -0400 Original-Received: from root by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1KsJjC-00024K-I6 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 16:05:02 +0000 Original-Received: from 38.98.147.130 ([38.98.147.130]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 16:05:02 +0000 Original-Received: from tzz by 38.98.147.130 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 16:05:02 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 20 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 38.98.147.130 X-Face: bd.DQ~'29fIs`T_%O%C\g%6jW)yi[zuz6; d4V0`@y-~$#3P_Ng{@m+e4o<4P'#(_GJQ%TT= D}[Ep*b!\e,fBZ'j_+#"Ps?s2!4H2-Y"sx" User-Agent: Gnus/5.110011 (No Gnus v0.11) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:9UqdYFAhM/e/xLbBjzzLxSaLd1U= X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:104755 gmane.emacs.gnus.general:67661 Archived-At: On Tue, 21 Oct 2008 11:50:37 +0900 Kenichi Handa wrote: KH> In article , "Richard M. Stallman" writes: >> What's the advantage of giving the user an error when he types `utf8'? >> Why not do what he wants? >> Which user interaction are you thinking of? >> C-x RET c utf8 RET KH> I think it's not good to give a user an incorrect impression KH> that "utf8" is a correct name. In IANA KH> (http://www.iana.org/assignments/character-sets), there's no KH> alias names for "UTF-8". So maybe display a message "This is not the real coding system name, use `utf-8'" and also don't offer utf8 for completion? Would that be sufficient? Ted