From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/52335 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: wmperry@gnu.org (William M. Perry) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: [OT] Of the meaning of GNUS Date: Mon, 05 May 2003 09:54:22 -0500 Sender: ding-owner@lists.math.uh.edu Message-ID: <86wuh5mokh.fsf@gnu.org> References: <65orpvqy.fsf@asfast.com> <84n0i2etnm.fsf@lucy.is.informatik.uni-duisburg.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=latin-iso8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1052164765 2538 80.91.224.249 (5 May 2003 19:59:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 5 May 2003 19:59:25 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M879@lists.math.uh.edu Mon May 05 21:59:23 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19Cm75-0000e6-00 for ; Mon, 05 May 2003 21:59:03 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 19Cm8G-0002Qp-00; Mon, 05 May 2003 15:00:16 -0500 Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com ([64.157.176.121]) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 19ChSv-0008UI-00 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Mon, 05 May 2003 10:01:17 -0500 Original-Received: (qmail 11331 invoked by alias); 5 May 2003 15:01:17 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 11326 invoked from network); 5 May 2003 15:01:17 -0000 Original-Received: from sccimhc02.insightbb.com (63.240.76.164) by sclp3.sclp.com with SMTP; 5 May 2003 15:01:17 -0000 Original-Received: from muspellheim (12-222-67-85.client.insightbb.com[12.222.67.85]) by sccimhc02.insightbb.com (sccimhc02) with ESMTP id <20030505150035im200ad0sne>; Mon, 5 May 2003 15:00:35 +0000 Original-Received: from wmperry by muspellheim with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 19ChME-0006Rv-00; Mon, 05 May 2003 09:54:22 -0500 Original-To: Lloyd Zusman X-Face: O~Rn;(l][/-o1sALg4A@xpE:9-"'IR[%;,,!m7 (Lloyd Zusman's message of "Sun, 04 May 2003 10:20:46 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.1001 (Gnus v5.10.1) Emacs/21.3 (gnu/linux) Precedence: bulk Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:52335 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:52335 Lloyd Zusman writes: > kai.grossjohann@gmx.net (Kai Gro=81=DFjohann) writes: > >> Lloyd Zusman writes: >> >>> In English, the word "gnu" (meaning "wildebeest") can be pronounced with >>> a silent "g", so that it sounds exactly the same as "new". Therefore, >>> using that convention, "Gnus" would be pronounced like "news". Since >>> Gnus was originally created as a usenet newsreader, that's a very >>> appropriate name. >> >> I understand that the G is not silent, says Lars. > > Check "gnu" in an English dictionary. I looked in several, and in all > cases, the "g" is silent. The first pronunciation is "noo", and the > second one is "nyoo" (as if the "gn" were reversed to "ng", and the "g" > turned into a glide). The fundamental problem is the 'gnu' is not an english word, so I would not trust their pronunciation. I remember seeing an explanation by RMS at one point about how the original pronunciation (by the indigenous people of the area) of gnu was 'guh-new' and it was butchered when being imported into the english language. Anybody else remember this? -bp --=20 Ceterum censeo vi esse delendam