From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/66436 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ted Zlatanov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: split-fancy and gnus-registry confusion Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2008 13:03:55 -0600 Organization: =?utf-8?B?0KLQtdC+0LTQvtGAINCX0LvQsNGC0LDQvdC+0LI=?= @ Cienfuegos Message-ID: <86y78x6lic.fsf@lifelogs.com> References: <86abllp2nd.fsf@lifelogs.com> <86mypfbixg.fsf@lifelogs.com> <86r6eq9zl6.fsf@lifelogs.com> <86fxv69o83.fsf@lifelogs.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1204789170 990 80.91.229.12 (6 Mar 2008 07:39:30 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 07:39:30 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ding@gnus.org To: Norman Walsh Original-X-From: ding-owner+M14922@lists.math.uh.edu Thu Mar 06 08:39:57 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JXAhn-0000y4-5I for ding-account@gmane.org; Thu, 06 Mar 2008 08:39:55 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1JXAfY-0006S0-M3; Thu, 06 Mar 2008 01:37:36 -0600 Original-Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.32]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1JWysg-0002zn-UR for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Wed, 05 Mar 2008 13:02:22 -0600 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1JWysa-0000pS-In for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Wed, 05 Mar 2008 13:02:22 -0600 Original-Received: from mail.blockstar.com ([170.224.69.95]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1JWysg-0002yL-00 for ; Wed, 05 Mar 2008 20:02:22 +0100 Original-Received: from tzlatanov-ubuntu-desktop.jumptrading.com (unknown [38.98.147.130]) by mail.blockstar.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F6C83E8085; Wed, 5 Mar 2008 11:03:55 -0800 (PST) X-Face: bd.DQ~'29fIs`T_%O%C\g%6jW)yi[zuz6;d4V0`@y-~$#3P_Ng{@m+e4o<4P'#(_GJQ%TT= D}[Ep*b!\e,fBZ'j_+#"Ps?s2!4H2-Y"sx" X-Hashcash: 1:20:080305:ndw@nwalsh.com::++EAtaFl5ySRKOQu:0001+Hm X-Hashcash: 1:20:080305:ding@gnus.org::nHLa7NgqfefblqcB:0000I5JZ In-Reply-To: (Norman Walsh's message of "Wed, 05 Mar 2008 07:49:36 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110007 (No Gnus v0.7) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:66436 Archived-At: On Wed, 05 Mar 2008 07:49:36 -0500 Norman Walsh wrote: NW> That did it. I wonder where gnus-verbose is getting reset? I set it in NW> *scratch* and it *seemed* persistent. Anyway... I don't know, sorry. NW> Here's what I get for one of the misfiled messages: NW> gnus-registry-split-fancy-with-parent is looking for matches for reference from [ ] NW> gnus-registry-split-fancy-with-parent traced the reference from [ ] to group nnml:misc NW> gnus-registry-split-fancy-with-parent traced the reference from [ ] to group w3c.member.tag NW> gnus-registry-post-process-group: too many extra matches ((misc w3c.member.tag)) for references . Returning none. NW> nil NW> I have no idea how/why it traced to nnml:misc. NW> It isn't there, it wasn't sent from there, and it's never been there. Here NW> are the headers for it: ... NW> Curiously, if I look in .gnus.registry.eld, sure enough I find: NW> ("" ((mtime 18380 22548 203572)) "w3c.member.tag" "nnml:misc") NW> So now I guess the question is, who decided to put nnml:misc in there? It was the registry. It hooks into each backend's functionality (spool, move, copy) and also notices new articles in every group you visit. I don't know how and when this happened, though. As I mentioned in another message, I think giving up on multiple matches is not ideal. We can do better. Maybe the registry could ask the user in such cases for the right strategy? Ted