From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/58345 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Kai Grossjohann Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Gnus is very slow in displaying headers. Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2004 09:14:21 +0200 Sender: ding-owner@lists.math.uh.edu Message-ID: <86zn4j665u.fsf@ketchup.de.uu.net> References: <4knii01atsa54v7dm0gs6taep3v1uoglj7@4ax.com> <86u0us3mrf.fsf@ketchup.de.uu.net> <868yc43fn0.fsf@ketchup.de.uu.net> <8yc4d5gh.fsf@random.internal> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1093418819 32593 80.91.224.253 (25 Aug 2004 07:26:59 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2004 07:26:59 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M6886@lists.math.uh.edu Wed Aug 25 09:26:48 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BzsBE-0005NH-00 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 2004 09:26:48 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1Bzs7r-0001vV-00; Wed, 25 Aug 2004 02:23:19 -0500 Original-Received: from util2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.23]) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1Bzs7h-0001vN-00 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Wed, 25 Aug 2004 02:23:09 -0500 Original-Received: from justine.libertine.org ([66.139.78.221] ident=postfix) by util2.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1Bzs7g-00063i-3l for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Wed, 25 Aug 2004 02:23:08 -0500 Original-Received: from emr0.eu.uu.net (emr0.eu.uu.net [195.129.12.211]) by justine.libertine.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79A813A005A for ; Wed, 25 Aug 2004 02:23:06 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from imr0.eu.uu.net ([146.188.96.37]) by emr0.eu.uu.net with esmtp id 1BzrzN-0000h9-Hs; Wed, 25 Aug 2004 07:14:33 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by imr0.eu.uu.net with esmtp id 1BzrzN-0005Fp-A0; Wed, 25 Aug 2004 07:14:33 +0000 Original-Received: from agen1.ams.ops.eu.uu.net ([146.188.97.8] helo=amr.eu.uu.net) by imr0.eu.uu.net with esmtp id 1BzrzM-0005Fm-Uv; Wed, 25 Aug 2004 07:14:32 +0000 Original-Received: from ketchup.de.uu.net.mci.com (dhcp-213.de.uu.net [139.4.37.213] (may be forged)) by amr.eu.uu.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i7P7EWxt006179; Wed, 25 Aug 2004 07:14:32 GMT SSL encryption with TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 SMTP AUTH used user=kgrossjo AuthMechanisms=LOGIN (envelope-from kai@emptydomain.de) Original-To: kai@emptydomain.de In-Reply-To: <8yc4d5gh.fsf@random.internal> (Derrell Lipman's message of "Tue, 24 Aug 2004 09:35:26 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110003 (No Gnus v0.3) Emacs/21.3.50 (gnu/linux) Precedence: bulk Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:58345 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:58345 Derrell.Lipman@UnwiredUniverse.com writes: > Kai Grossjohann writes: > >> Some people like to keep lots of articles marked as unread, especially >> for mail, so that they do not lose track of the context. But I think >> that it works well to (setq gnus-fetch-old-headers t): this leads to >> Gnus showing the complete thread, if there is an unread article in >> that thread. This way, I get the complete context of new discussions, >> without having to keep all old articles of this discussion unread. > > I used to do that. Based on a previous thread in the ding list about slow > presentation of a group, I now have the following comment and setting in my > .gnus file: > > (setq > ;; Show headers of previous messages in a thread > ;; Don't do this; it greatly slows down presentation of the group > gnus-fetch-old-headers nil > ) > > My recollection was that the difference in speed, disabling this, was > remarkable. Well, what do I say about this? Many people have many articles marked as unread. It is faster to mark them as read and (setq gnus-fetch-old-headers t) -- this tends to show the "interesting" articles that people would otherwise mark as unread. Obviously, not showing the "interesting" articles is faster still. But then, people might tend to mark interesting articles as unread, leading to 12,000 unread articles in a group, which leads to the slowdown. Kai