From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.4 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 3008 invoked from network); 10 Nov 2023 17:27:59 -0000 Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu (129.7.128.32) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 10 Nov 2023 17:27:59 -0000 Received: from lists1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.208]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.96.2) (envelope-from ) id 1r1UXX-00Ge8p-0N for ml@inbox.vuxu.org; Fri, 10 Nov 2023 10:39:27 -0600 Received: from lists1.math.uh.edu ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by lists1.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.96.2) (envelope-from ) id 1r1UXP-00119h-0W for ml@inbox.vuxu.org; Fri, 10 Nov 2023 10:39:19 -0600 Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.32]) by lists1.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.96.2) (envelope-from ) id 1r1UXH-00119Y-1S for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Fri, 10 Nov 2023 10:39:16 -0600 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.96.2) (envelope-from ) id 1r1UWw-00Ge8B-1J for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Fri, 10 Nov 2023 10:39:01 -0600 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:Date:References: In-Reply-To:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=jT94u2SZCi3QG0dIZkTT6I6WVtt5yV9tWjhiJKLAfHU=; b=sjx0+6r+qo1C5PIZncdF+Movrg MV8HjPQw7R4+j57uW83Y+qvkgNBhB07KSBWLNkoAxLeZVpLSr/5WaeCi9rxpK131rKdbU/AgYYsj8 6rR2nN2daJGc0IBesTEBWjhs206/8idUcp92Ye7r1vfg4pJfc+I8vIG+FErvWCr4KjU0=; Received: from mail.ericabrahamsen.net ([52.70.2.18]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1r1UWj-0002ZG-9U for ding@gnus.org; Fri, 10 Nov 2023 17:38:40 +0100 Received: from localhost (225.red-79-153-76.dynamicip.rima-tde.net [79.153.76.225]) (Authenticated sender: eric@ericabrahamsen.net) by mail.ericabrahamsen.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6BA2BFA035; Fri, 10 Nov 2023 16:38:34 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ericabrahamsen.net; s=mail; t=1699634314; bh=jT94u2SZCi3QG0dIZkTT6I6WVtt5yV9tWjhiJKLAfHU=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:From; b=QsORSkxSm+3/arNVxD0SxNirmcAHFnsGutXibQb7ffdQPwj/y3MsYUsSq9Fa40TMH XRgxuOVhyqOjjHE+4lBOzaeMfztmGoV2MobRa+IIcdpqe7QcjTQK/uE44ue7gQzSke CNEnpiI98AOq0FVsTNZ9ZWiP5sc30zjlRtAr/fpk= From: Eric Abrahamsen To: Greg Troxel Cc: ding@gnus.org Subject: Re: resending bounces: DKIM and Message-ID: In-Reply-To: (Greg Troxel's message of "Mon, 06 Nov 2023 19:53:42 -0500") References: <87msvu8m4w.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <877cmw80c4.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2023 17:38:32 +0100 Message-ID: <871qcxa7hz.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain List-ID: Precedence: bulk Greg Troxel writes: > Eric Abrahamsen writes: > >>> Wow, exactly the right thing. Yes, I added DKIM-Signature in .emacs: >>> >>> (setq message-ignored-bounced-headers >>> "^\\(Received\\|Return-Path\\|Delivered-To\\|DKIM-Signature\\):") >>> >>> and now SDb omits it. >>> >>> I would say that the default value should be changed to include >>> DKIM-Signature. If the message is altered at all it becomes invalid, >>> and the new message should get signed the same way, so having two valid >>> signatures one of which has an incorrect time is just not helpful. I >>> cannot think of ever wanting to keep it. It's not quite like Received >>> but it's close. >> >> Great! And yes, let's add it to the default. I poked around briefly for >> other signing-type headers that we might want to delete, but haven't >> come up with anything that puts an actual signature in the headers. >> Hashcash, maybe? > > I suppose you could add hashcash, but I perceive hashcash to be > historical. Is anybody still using it? (I used to have it configured > both generated and scored on receipt.) (FWIW I've added both to the default and pushed to master.)