>>> "TH" == Tassilo Horn writes: > Uwe Brauer writes: > Hi Uwe, >> I just realised that the following is odd: >> >> []{ } 57606 [ Uwe Braue] Uwe Brauer [[CV] (was: [Amnu 19]) ] Sun, 28 Apr 2019 >> 11:30:41 +0200 8.8k 6 >> []{ }O 57585 [ tex-d-l-r] tex-d-l@li [tex-d-l Nachrichtenkompil] Sun, 28 Apr >> 2019 00:00:07 +0200 13k 165 >> []{ }O 57593 [ users ] oub@mat.uc [Subject: Digest of users@] Sun, 28 Apr 2019 >> 08:00:27 +0000 (UTC) 38k 11 >> []{ } . 57604 [ Gestión d] oub@mat.uc [COMUNICADO AUTOMÁTICO DE ] Sun, 28 Apr >> 2019 11:13:27 +0200 (CEST) 5.0k 32 >> []{ } 57608 [ Uwe Braue] Uwe Brauer [Re: [Amnu 19] ] Sun, 28 Apr 2019 11:31:33 >> +0200 11k ? >> >> Why is 57606 displayed before 57585? > Well, since you didn't tell us how you've configured sorting, I assume > you are using the defaults, and that would mean sorting by article > number. Sorry I posted my setting in a different message: (setq gnus-thread-sort-functions '(gnus-thread-sort-by-date gnus-thread-sort-by-number)) (setq gnus-sort-functions '(gnus-article-sort-by-date gnus-article-sort-by-number)) > gnus-thread-sort-functions is a variable defined in ‘gnus-sum.el’. > Its value is > (...) > Original value was > (gnus-thread-sort-by-number) > This variable may be risky if used as a file-local variable. > Documentation: > List of functions used for sorting threads in the summary buffer. > By default, threads are sorted by article number. > Each function takes two threads and returns non-nil if the first > thread should be sorted before the other. If you use more than one > function, the primary sort function should be the last. You should > probably always include ‘gnus-thread-sort-by-number’ in the list of > sorting functions -- preferably first. Also note that sorting by date > is often much slower than sorting by number, and the sorting order is > very similar. (Sorting by date means sorting by the time the message > was sent, sorting by number means sorting by arrival time.) > ... > Especially, the last sentence might give a clue. I think with NNTP > (usegroups) the article number really exists on the server, so it's > "time the message was received on that nntp server". But with IMAP > (mail) the number is assigned by Gnus, and then it basically gives the > order in which you've downloaded the messages, and that's not really > chronological. Following your advice to read the documentation more carefully, I tried the following setting (setq gnus-thread-sort-functions '(gnus-thread-sort-by-number gnus-thread-sort-by-date)) (setq gnus-sort-functions '(gnus-article-sort-by-number gnus-article-sort-by-date)) However it does not help the summary buffer looks still ,---- | | []{ }O 57606 [ Uwe Braue] Uwe Brauer [[CV] (was: [Amnu 19]) ] Sun, 28 Apr 2019 11:30:41 +0200 8.8k 6 | []{ }OA 57609 [ +henar de ] Uwe Brauer [ ] Sun, 28 Apr 2019 09:35:45 +0000 10k 13 | []{ }O 57621 [ Uwe Braue] Uwe Brauer [[stuff] (was: [CV]) ] Sun, 28 Apr 2019 16:04:34 +0200 9.4k 16 | []{ }O 57585 [ tex-d-l-r] tex-d-l@li [tex-d-l Nachrichtenkompil] Sun, 28 Apr 2019 00:00:07 +0200 13k 165 | []{ }O 57593 [ users ] oub@mat.uc [Subject: Digest of users@] Sun, 28 Apr 2019 08:00:27 +0000 (UTC) 38k 11 | []{ }O 57604 [ Gestión d] oub@mat.uc [COMUNICADO AUTOMÁTICO DE ] Sun, 28 Apr 2019 11:13:27 +0200 (CEST) 5.0k 32 | `---- So how could I achieve the following ,---- | []{ }O 57606 [ Uwe Braue] Uwe Brauer [[CV] (was: [Amnu 19]) ] Sun, 28 Apr 2019 11:30:41 +0200 8.8k 6 | []{ }OA 57609 [ +henar de ] Uwe Brauer [ ] Sun, 28 Apr 2019 09:35:45 +0000 10k 13 | []{ }O 57585 [ tex-d-l-r] tex-d-l@li [tex-d-l Nachrichtenkompil] Sun, 28 Apr 2019 00:00:07 +0200 13k 165 | []{ }O 57593 [ users ] oub@mat.uc [Subject: Digest of users@] Sun, 28 Apr 2019 08:00:27 +0000 (UTC) 38k 11 | []{ }O 57604 [ Gestión d] oub@mat.uc [COMUNICADO AUTOMÁTICO DE ] Sun, 28 Apr 2019 11:13:27 +0200 (CEST) 5.0k 32 | []{ }O 57621 [ Uwe Braue] Uwe Brauer [[stuff] (was: [CV]) ] Sun, 28 Apr 2019 16:04:34 +0200 9.4k 16 `---- ??? Because I have had sometimes difficult in finding message, but the ordering I mentioned. So I had to toggle threading off to find them. The setting I would like to obtain would spare me that trouble.