From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/84043 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eric Abrahamsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: still want Seen articles split... 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My >> ESF> solution to this problem was to ensure that all emails are moved to >> ESF> other folders when splitting, leaving INBOX empty each time. For those >> ESF> emails that you would normally have left in INBOX, create a "general" >> ESF> folder and move them there. >> >> ESF> Alternatively, do the splitting on the server instead of in gnus. >> >> ESF> Both approaches can work -- I've done both and, in fact, currently use a >> ESF> combination of the two. On the server, I split those emails I would >> ESF> seldom, if ever, want to look at on a mobile device. Gnus splits all >> ESF> others, seen or not. >> >> I keep everything from one account in a single INBOX to keep it >> manageable with other tools, but another account is always split into >> folders. Both approaches make sense in context. >> >> I can't think of a good general solution, sorry. A gnus-seen flag would >> help but not in every situation. > > Fair enough. Both approaches do make sense, and generally speaking > server-side splitting seems far the most reasonable thing to do. I only > wish Gmail supported bulk import of filters -- I'm pretty wedded to my > BBDB-based splitting. May have spoken too soon -- it looks like Gmail can import in bulk. Now to see if importation can be automated...