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>>>>> Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>:

> Well, if having invalid certificates is really common on IMAP servers,
> then annoying them with this would be...  annoying.

They aren't neccessarily invalid.  In many cases they are self signed,
and can't be verified because they aren't signed by a CA in the client's
certificate store.

So they are the typical case for someone with a private dovecot imap
server, running on a debian box somewhere.