* gnus-single-article-buffer (was: idea for GMane: treat RSS feeds as mailing lists) [not found] ` <87lj7zx2gm.fsf@hariville.hurrynot.org> @ 2010-09-02 10:40 ` Ted Zlatanov 2010-09-02 10:57 ` gnus-single-article-buffer Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen 0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread From: Ted Zlatanov @ 2010-09-02 10:40 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ding; +Cc: gmane-discuss On Sat, 21 Aug 2010 23:39:13 +0530 Raja R Harinath <harinath@hurrynot.org> wrote: RRH> As I mentioned in the other e-mail, you need to have RRH> gnus-single-article-buffer set to nil. RRH> It's got to do with how 'gnus-article-setup-buffer' tries to optimize RRH> out some settings on a pre-existing *Article* buffer. This includes RRH> skipping the setting of the group/topic parameters as buffer-local RRH> variables, and also skipping the clearing of stale buffer-local RRH> variables left over from previous groups. RRH> Yeah, this is a gnus bug, but a lot of the guilty parties appear to be RRH> on this newsgroup ;-) This bit me with the new gnus-html.el renderer. I think gnus-single-article-buffer should either default to nil or go away altogether. I don't see any benefit to keeping it t. Ted ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: gnus-single-article-buffer 2010-09-02 10:40 ` gnus-single-article-buffer (was: idea for GMane: treat RSS feeds as mailing lists) Ted Zlatanov @ 2010-09-02 10:57 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen 2010-09-02 12:32 ` gnus-single-article-buffer Ted Zlatanov 0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 2010-09-02 10:57 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ding; +Cc: gmane-discuss Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> writes: > This bit me with the new gnus-html.el renderer. I think > gnus-single-article-buffer should either default to nil or go away > altogether. I don't see any benefit to keeping it t. I flipped the default to nil during last night's default-flipping session... -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: gnus-single-article-buffer 2010-09-02 10:57 ` gnus-single-article-buffer Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 2010-09-02 12:32 ` Ted Zlatanov 2010-09-02 12:41 ` gnus-single-article-buffer Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen 0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread From: Ted Zlatanov @ 2010-09-02 12:32 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ding; +Cc: gmane-discuss On Thu, 02 Sep 2010 12:57:32 +0200 Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> wrote: LMI> Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> writes: >> This bit me with the new gnus-html.el renderer. I think >> gnus-single-article-buffer should either default to nil or go away >> altogether. I don't see any benefit to keeping it t. LMI> I flipped the default to nil during last night's default-flipping LMI> session... Why do we need it at all? Is there anyone that wants it t? Ted ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: gnus-single-article-buffer 2010-09-02 12:32 ` gnus-single-article-buffer Ted Zlatanov @ 2010-09-02 12:41 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen 2010-09-02 13:32 ` gnus-single-article-buffer Ted Zlatanov 0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 2010-09-02 12:41 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ding; +Cc: gmane-discuss Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> writes: > Why do we need it at all? Is there anyone that wants it t? It's been the default behaviour for 30 years, so I would guess that somebody would miss it. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: gnus-single-article-buffer 2010-09-02 12:41 ` gnus-single-article-buffer Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 2010-09-02 13:32 ` Ted Zlatanov 2010-09-02 14:05 ` gnus-single-article-buffer Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen 0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread From: Ted Zlatanov @ 2010-09-02 13:32 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ding; +Cc: gmane-discuss On Thu, 02 Sep 2010 14:41:32 +0200 Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> wrote: LMI> Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> writes: >> Why do we need it at all? Is there anyone that wants it t? LMI> It's been the default behaviour for 30 years, so I would guess that LMI> somebody would miss it. I'm willing to put up with user complaints (resolving bugs, finding workarounds, etc.) if it simplifies and improves the code. But maybe we should keep it nil for a year, mark it deprecated, and see who complains. Ted ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: gnus-single-article-buffer 2010-09-02 13:32 ` gnus-single-article-buffer Ted Zlatanov @ 2010-09-02 14:05 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen 2010-09-03 12:53 ` gnus-single-article-buffer Ted Zlatanov 0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 2010-09-02 14:05 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ding; +Cc: gmane-discuss Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> writes: > I'm willing to put up with user complaints (resolving bugs, finding > workarounds, etc.) if it simplifies and improves the code. But maybe we > should keep it nil for a year, mark it deprecated, and see who > complains. Yup. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: gnus-single-article-buffer 2010-09-02 14:05 ` gnus-single-article-buffer Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 2010-09-03 12:53 ` Ted Zlatanov 2010-09-03 12:58 ` gnus-single-article-buffer Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen 0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread From: Ted Zlatanov @ 2010-09-03 12:53 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ding; +Cc: gmane-discuss On Thu, 02 Sep 2010 16:05:27 +0200 Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> wrote: LMI> Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> writes: >> I'm willing to put up with user complaints (resolving bugs, finding >> workarounds, etc.) if it simplifies and improves the code. But maybe we >> should keep it nil for a year, mark it deprecated, and see who >> complains. LMI> Yup. I can't find a way to do that with defcustom. Should it just be in the manual? Ted ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: gnus-single-article-buffer 2010-09-03 12:53 ` gnus-single-article-buffer Ted Zlatanov @ 2010-09-03 12:58 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen 2010-09-03 13:10 ` gnus-single-article-buffer Leo 0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 2010-09-03 12:58 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ding; +Cc: gmane-discuss Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> writes: > I can't find a way to do that with defcustom. Should it just be in > the manual? Hm. I thought one could mark variables as deprecated... If not, just note it in the manual. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: gnus-single-article-buffer 2010-09-03 12:58 ` gnus-single-article-buffer Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 2010-09-03 13:10 ` Leo 2010-09-03 16:42 ` gnus-single-article-buffer Reiner Steib 0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread From: Leo @ 2010-09-03 13:10 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ding; +Cc: gmane-discuss On 2010-09-03 13:58 +0100, Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen wrote: > Hm. I thought one could mark variables as deprecated... > > If not, just note it in the manual. There is `define-obsolete-variable-alias' in 23.2. Leo ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: gnus-single-article-buffer 2010-09-03 13:10 ` gnus-single-article-buffer Leo @ 2010-09-03 16:42 ` Reiner Steib 0 siblings, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread From: Reiner Steib @ 2010-09-03 16:42 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ding, gmane-discuss On Fri, Sep 03 2010, Leo wrote: > On 2010-09-03 13:58 +0100, Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen wrote: >> Hm. I thought one could mark variables as deprecated... >> >> If not, just note it in the manual. > > There is `define-obsolete-variable-alias' in 23.2. If there is no new variable to use instead (CURRENT-NAME = string), `make-obsolete-variable' should be fine. ,----[ <f1> f define-obsolete-variable-alias RET ] | define-obsolete-variable-alias is a Lisp macro in `byte-run.el'. | (define-obsolete-variable-alias OBSOLETE-NAME CURRENT-NAME &optional WHEN | DOCSTRING) | | Make OBSOLETE-NAME a variable alias for CURRENT-NAME and mark it obsolete. | | (define-obsolete-variable-alias 'old-var 'new-var "22.1" "old-var's doc.") | | is equivalent to the following two lines of code: | | (defvaralias 'old-var 'new-var "old-var's doc.") | (make-obsolete-variable 'old-var 'new-var "22.1") | | See the docstrings of `defvaralias' and `make-obsolete-variable' or | Info node `(elisp)Variable Aliases' for more details. `---- ,----[ <f1> f make-obsolete-variable RET ] | make-obsolete-variable is an interactive compiled Lisp function in | `byte-run.el'. | (make-obsolete-variable OBSOLETE-NAME CURRENT-NAME &optional WHEN) | | Make the byte-compiler warn that OBSOLETE-NAME is obsolete. | The warning will say that CURRENT-NAME should be used instead. | If CURRENT-NAME is a string, that is the `use instead' message. | If provided, WHEN should be a string indicating when the variable | was first made obsolete, for example a date or a release number. `---- Bye, Reiner. -- ,,, (o o) ---ooO-(_)-Ooo--- | PGP key available | http://rsteib.home.pages.de/ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
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