* Reproducible agent-related server duplication. @ 2003-11-16 20:37 Gaute B Strokkenes [not found] ` <87y8ugyrri.fsf-1xO5oi07KQx4cg9Nei1l7Q@public.gmane.org> 0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread From: Gaute B Strokkenes @ 2003-11-16 20:37 UTC (permalink / raw) My primary server is the news server of my old university, nntp-serv.cam.ac.uk. Since I graduated this summer I am no longer able to use it, but I still keep it around since I have stuff that I care about in the agent cache. Whenever I started Gnus I am asked the question: Unable to open nntp:nntp-serv.cam.ac.uk, go offline? (y or n) to which I always answer yes. When I'm in the Group buffer I occasionally say `J s'. Sometimes (but not always) I am then asked the question above again, exactly three times. I always answer yes. When I enter the server buffer this is what I see: {nnfolder:archive} (opened) {nntp:nntp-serv.cam.ac.uk} (offline) (agent) {nntp:nntp-serv.cam.ac.uk} (offline) (agent) {nntp:nntp-serv.cam.ac.uk} (offline) (agent) {nntp:news.gmane.org} (opened) (agent) {nnml:} (opened) {nntp:nntp-serv.cam.ac.uk} (offline) (agent) As you can see, there are precisely three duplicates of the nntp-serv entry. The duplication seems to be linked to the question reappearing three times. They're never there _before_ I say `J s', and always there _after_ . -- Gaute Strokkenes http://www.srcf.ucam.org/~gs234/ The Osmonds! You are all Osmonds!! Throwing up on a freeway at dawn!!! ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
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* Re: Reproducible agent-related server duplication. [not found] ` <87y8ugyrri.fsf-1xO5oi07KQx4cg9Nei1l7Q@public.gmane.org> @ 2003-11-17 8:50 ` Jochen Küpper 2003-11-21 16:00 ` FIXED: " Kevin Greiner 0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread From: Jochen Küpper @ 2003-11-17 8:50 UTC (permalink / raw) On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 21:37:05 +0100 Gaute B Strokkenes wrote: Gaute> As you can see, there are precisely three duplicates of the nntp-serv Gaute> entry. Gaute> The duplication seems to be linked to the question reappearing three Gaute> times. They're never there _before_ I say `J s', and always there Gaute> _after_ . I do have a similar problem which I always meant to look at a little closer: I have a IMAP secondary select method which is agentized: ,---- | (nnimap "FHI" | (nnimap-address "imap.rz-berlin.mpg.de") | (nnimap-expunge-on-close always)) `---- Whenever I change something /on/ this server while unplugged (i.e. change marks) and then go plugged I am asked whether to synchronize flags. naturally I say yes, as that's what I want. The Gnus opens a *new* connection to the server and then I have to entries in the server buffer... I am suspicious that the agent uses a somewhat different select method (I do see a "openssl ..." flashing in the minibuffer when the agent connects.) but so far have not had time to carefully look at it. Greetings, Jochen -- Einigkeit und Recht und Freiheit http://www.Jochen-Kuepper.de Liberté, Égalité, Fraternité GnuPG key: CC1B0B4D (Part 3 you find in my messages before fall 2003.) ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* FIXED: Reproducible agent-related server duplication. 2003-11-17 8:50 ` Jochen Küpper @ 2003-11-21 16:00 ` Kevin Greiner [not found] ` <uk75t7lu0.fsf_-_-9/l4zSBFAMwJvtFkdXX2HpqQE7yCjDx5@public.gmane.org> 2003-11-23 17:07 ` Gaute B Strokkenes 0 siblings, 2 replies; 10+ messages in thread From: Kevin Greiner @ 2003-11-21 16:00 UTC (permalink / raw) Jochen Küpper <jochen@jochen-kuepper.de> writes: > On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 21:37:05 +0100 Gaute B Strokkenes wrote: > > Gaute> As you can see, there are precisely three duplicates of the nntp-serv > Gaute> entry. > > Gaute> The duplication seems to be linked to the question reappearing three > Gaute> times. They're never there _before_ I say `J s', and always there > Gaute> _after_ . > > I do have a similar problem which I always meant to look at a little > closer: > > I have a IMAP secondary select method which is agentized: > ,---- > | (nnimap "FHI" > | (nnimap-address "imap.rz-berlin.mpg.de") > | (nnimap-expunge-on-close always)) > `---- > > Whenever I change something /on/ this server while unplugged (i.e. > change marks) and then go plugged I am asked whether to synchronize > flags. naturally I say yes, as that's what I want. The Gnus opens a > *new* connection to the server and then I have to entries in the > server buffer... > > I am suspicious that the agent uses a somewhat different select method > (I do see a "openssl ..." flashing in the minibuffer when the agent > connects.) but so far have not had time to carefully look at it. > Yes, both of these problems are related and have been annoying people for some time. I just checked in the patch to convert the agent from using methods (which the agent is unable to keep synchronized with the actual server methods) to server names. Kevin ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
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* Re: FIXED: Reproducible agent-related server duplication. [not found] ` <uk75t7lu0.fsf_-_-9/l4zSBFAMwJvtFkdXX2HpqQE7yCjDx5@public.gmane.org> @ 2003-11-21 18:01 ` Jochen Küpper 0 siblings, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread From: Jochen Küpper @ 2003-11-21 18:01 UTC (permalink / raw) On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 10:00:55 -0600 Kevin Greiner wrote: Kevin> I just checked in the patch to convert the agent from using Kevin> methods (which the agent is unable to keep synchronized with Kevin> the actual server methods) to server names. Seems to work for some quick testing -- thanks a lot. A big lot! :)) Greetings, Jochen -- Einigkeit und Recht und Freiheit http://www.Jochen-Kuepper.de Liberté, Égalité, Fraternité GnuPG key: CC1B0B4D (Part 3 you find in my messages before fall 2003.) ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: FIXED: Reproducible agent-related server duplication. 2003-11-21 16:00 ` FIXED: " Kevin Greiner [not found] ` <uk75t7lu0.fsf_-_-9/l4zSBFAMwJvtFkdXX2HpqQE7yCjDx5@public.gmane.org> @ 2003-11-23 17:07 ` Gaute B Strokkenes 2003-11-24 16:24 ` Kevin Greiner 1 sibling, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread From: Gaute B Strokkenes @ 2003-11-23 17:07 UTC (permalink / raw) On 21 nov 2003, kgreiner@xpediantsolutions.com wrote: > I just checked in the patch to convert the agent from using methods > (which the agent is unable to keep synchronized with the actual > server methods) to server names. Does this mean that I can delete the file News/agent/lib/servers ? The filestamp on my copy is from early July, and the content is still the same old scrambled hodgepodge (as discussed in private mail). Thanks for your work, btw. -- Gaute Strokkenes http://www.srcf.ucam.org/~gs234/ Why are these athletic shoe salesmen following me?? ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: FIXED: Reproducible agent-related server duplication. 2003-11-23 17:07 ` Gaute B Strokkenes @ 2003-11-24 16:24 ` Kevin Greiner 2003-11-24 19:34 ` Gaute B Strokkenes 0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread From: Kevin Greiner @ 2003-11-24 16:24 UTC (permalink / raw) Gaute B Strokkenes <biggaute@uwc.net> writes: > On 21 nov 2003, kgreiner@xpediantsolutions.com wrote: > >> I just checked in the patch to convert the agent from using methods >> (which the agent is unable to keep synchronized with the actual >> server methods) to server names. > > Does this mean that I can delete the file News/agent/lib/servers ? No, that is still the location were the agentized servers are stored. > The filestamp on my copy is from early July, and the content is still > the same old scrambled hodgepodge (as discussed in private mail). True. So far, gnus has been internally converting the old format to the new. What you probably want to do, but are not required to do, is edit the list of agentized servers. That will trigger an update to the servers file. So, open the server buffer then use 'J r' and 'J a' to change which servers are agentized then undo the change. Each update will trigger a file update so, when you are done, you'll have the same list of agentized servers with the updated servers file. > Thanks for your work, btw. Your welcome. Kevin ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: FIXED: Reproducible agent-related server duplication. 2003-11-24 16:24 ` Kevin Greiner @ 2003-11-24 19:34 ` Gaute B Strokkenes 2003-11-24 22:17 ` Kevin Greiner 0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread From: Gaute B Strokkenes @ 2003-11-24 19:34 UTC (permalink / raw) On 24 nov 2003, kgreiner@xpediantsolutions.com wrote: > Gaute B Strokkenes <biggaute@uwc.net> writes: > >> The filestamp on my copy is from early July, and the content is >> still the same old scrambled hodgepodge (as discussed in private >> mail). > > True. So far, gnus has been internally converting the old format to > the new. What you probably want to do, but are not required to do, > is edit the list of agentized servers. That will trigger an update > to the servers file. So, open the server buffer then use 'J r' and > 'J a' to change which servers are agentized then undo the change. Alas, this doesn't quite seem to work. I managed to remove and add my gmane entry without problems, but when I try `J r' with my main server, I get "Server not in the agent program". (Curiously enough `J a' leads to "Server not in the agent program".) My *Server* buffer looks like: {nnfolder:archive} (opened) {nntp:news.gmane.org} (opened) (agent) {nnml:} (opened) {nntp:nntp-serv.cam.ac.uk} (offline) (agent) News/agent/lib/server: --8<-- ("nntp:news.gmane.org" "native") --8<-- > Each update will trigger a file update so, when you are done, you'll > have the same list of agentized servers with the updated servers > file. Well, we're getting there, slowly but surely ^_^ -- Gaute Strokkenes http://www.srcf.ucam.org/~gs234/ Are we THERE yet? My MIND is a SUBMARINE!! ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: FIXED: Reproducible agent-related server duplication. 2003-11-24 19:34 ` Gaute B Strokkenes @ 2003-11-24 22:17 ` Kevin Greiner 2003-11-25 2:31 ` Kevin Greiner 0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread From: Kevin Greiner @ 2003-11-24 22:17 UTC (permalink / raw) Gaute B Strokkenes <biggaute@uwc.net> writes: > On 24 nov 2003, kgreiner@xpediantsolutions.com wrote: > >> Gaute B Strokkenes <biggaute@uwc.net> writes: >> >>> The filestamp on my copy is from early July, and the content is >>> still the same old scrambled hodgepodge (as discussed in private >>> mail). >> >> True. So far, gnus has been internally converting the old format to >> the new. What you probably want to do, but are not required to do, >> is edit the list of agentized servers. That will trigger an update >> to the servers file. So, open the server buffer then use 'J r' and >> 'J a' to change which servers are agentized then undo the change. > > Alas, this doesn't quite seem to work. I managed to remove and add my > gmane entry without problems, but when I try `J r' with my main > server, I get "Server not in the agent program". (Curiously enough `J > a' leads to "Server not in the agent program".) My *Server* buffer > looks like: > > {nnfolder:archive} (opened) > {nntp:news.gmane.org} (opened) (agent) > {nnml:} (opened) > {nntp:nntp-serv.cam.ac.uk} (offline) (agent) > > News/agent/lib/server: > --8<-- > ("nntp:news.gmane.org" "native") > --8<-- > >> Each update will trigger a file update so, when you are done, you'll >> have the same list of agentized servers with the updated servers >> file. > > Well, we're getting there, slowly but surely ^_^ Gaute, Thanks for the info. I'm fairly certain that I know the cause (the main server is aliased as "native" in the list). I'll get the fix out tomorrow. Kevin ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: FIXED: Reproducible agent-related server duplication. 2003-11-24 22:17 ` Kevin Greiner @ 2003-11-25 2:31 ` Kevin Greiner 2003-11-25 4:59 ` Gaute B Strokkenes 0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread From: Kevin Greiner @ 2003-11-25 2:31 UTC (permalink / raw) Kevin Greiner <kgreiner@xpediantsolutions.com> writes: > Gaute B Strokkenes <biggaute@uwc.net> writes: > >> On 24 nov 2003, kgreiner@xpediantsolutions.com wrote: >> >>> Gaute B Strokkenes <biggaute@uwc.net> writes: >>> >>>> The filestamp on my copy is from early July, and the content is >>>> still the same old scrambled hodgepodge (as discussed in private >>>> mail). >>> >>> True. So far, gnus has been internally converting the old format to >>> the new. What you probably want to do, but are not required to do, >>> is edit the list of agentized servers. That will trigger an update >>> to the servers file. So, open the server buffer then use 'J r' and >>> 'J a' to change which servers are agentized then undo the change. >> >> Alas, this doesn't quite seem to work. I managed to remove and add my >> gmane entry without problems, but when I try `J r' with my main >> server, I get "Server not in the agent program". (Curiously enough `J >> a' leads to "Server not in the agent program".) My *Server* buffer >> looks like: >> >> {nnfolder:archive} (opened) >> {nntp:news.gmane.org} (opened) (agent) >> {nnml:} (opened) >> {nntp:nntp-serv.cam.ac.uk} (offline) (agent) >> >> News/agent/lib/server: >> --8<-- >> ("nntp:news.gmane.org" "native") >> --8<-- >> >>> Each update will trigger a file update so, when you are done, you'll >>> have the same list of agentized servers with the updated servers >>> file. >> >> Well, we're getting there, slowly but surely ^_^ > > Gaute, > Thanks for the info. I'm fairly certain that I know the cause (the > main server is aliased as "native" in the list). I'll get the fix out > tomorrow. OK, a fix has been submitted. The server buffer isn't using gnus-method-to-server to generate the server names so it uses names incompatible with the agent. I've modified the server buffer to support both its internally generated name and the name returned by gnus-method-to-server (this avoids a feature change). The gnus-agent-add/remove-server functions were then updated to match. Kevin ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: FIXED: Reproducible agent-related server duplication. 2003-11-25 2:31 ` Kevin Greiner @ 2003-11-25 4:59 ` Gaute B Strokkenes 0 siblings, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread From: Gaute B Strokkenes @ 2003-11-25 4:59 UTC (permalink / raw) On 25 nov 2003, kgreiner@xpediantsolutions.com wrote: > OK, a fix has been submitted. The server buffer isn't using > gnus-method-to-server to generate the server names so it uses names > incompatible with the agent. I've modified the server buffer to > support both its internally generated name and the name returned by > gnus-method-to-server (this avoids a feature change). The > gnus-agent-add/remove-server functions were then updated to match. Splendid! I also note that the agent/cache integration has suddenly starting working for me. (I was one of the people who begged a few months ago; I just never found the time to complain about it not working ^_^) Thanks again. -- Gaute Strokkenes http://www.srcf.ucam.org/~gs234/ All this time I've been VIEWING a RUSSIAN MIDGET SODOMIZE a HOUSECAT! ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
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