From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/50689 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Andreas Fuchs Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: How do you make spam automatically move to spam group on exit? Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2003 17:10:39 +0000 (UTC) Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: <871y1h3idu.fsf@eris.void.at> References: <4nheae3ng3.fsf@lockgroove.bwh.harvard.edu> <8765qu2dt2.fsf@eris.void.at> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1047143514 17991 80.91.224.249 (8 Mar 2003 17:11:54 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2003 17:11:54 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Sat Mar 08 18:11:53 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18rhrV-0004g3-00 for ; Sat, 08 Mar 2003 18:11:53 +0100 Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu ([129.7.128.10] ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 18rhre-0002SM-00; Sat, 08 Mar 2003 11:12:02 -0600 Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Sat, 08 Mar 2003 11:13:02 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from main.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.224.249]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA12234 for ; Sat, 8 Mar 2003 11:12:50 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from list by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18rhqL-0004dE-00 for ; Sat, 08 Mar 2003 18:10:41 +0100 Mail-Followup-To: ding@hpc.uh.edu X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-To: ding@hpc.uh.edu Original-Received: from news by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18rhqJ-0004cp-00 for ; Sat, 08 Mar 2003 18:10:39 +0100 Original-Lines: 35 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org Mail-Copies-To: never X-Url: http://asf.void.at/ X-Attribution: asf X-Face: 3*3w/y?I6|`'CYW7F~m0]U1)L\|[x"?/V6^;s3FU#q|F'AL(3C?$eslHvAmR:KjT"&LZeqM 0wMS%HM` Cancel-Lock: sha1:7HvDWVLTcseLmR/DIWKfkhvAaSg= Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:50689 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:50689 Today, Ted Zlatanov wrote: >> BTW, why do unread messages not count? > > I know it seems counter-intuitive, but unread messages are neither ham > nor spam. They are just mail. Spam groups are the only place where > unread messages get processed automatically (given the spam mark). Mm-hm, I see. > I like that solution. Maybe there should be a group parameter for the > spam-spam-marks and spam-ham-marks. That's what my hack (titled a solution) is trying to emulate. (-; > Unfortunately, spam groups *always* mark unread articles as > spam. That's the way they work. You should use the > ham-process-destination parameter to move out ham, once you've marked > it as ham, and you should not use the unread mark to be a ham mark. > Use the gnus-read-mark (which already is a ham mark by default, and > will also positively affect the adaptive score). That way you just > read the message if it's ham, quit the group, and the message will be > moved automatically to the ham-process-destination. > > spam-ham-move-routine will be invoked after all the other > spam/ham processors to move the ham out of a spam group to the > spam-process-destination. Could spam-ham-move-routine mark the messages as unread after moving them? I do really would like to read the message in the "right" group, and not in my spambox or my "false positive" box. Thanks for the explanation, -- Andreas Fuchs, , asf@jabber.at, antifuchs irc.freenode.net's #emacs - online emacs advice from IRC addicts