From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/35678 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Arcady Genkin Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Quimby Upgrade Date: 07 Apr 2001 19:02:49 -0400 Message-ID: <871yr4mhye.fsf@tea.thpoon.com> References: <20010405111030.D51587@kens.com> <20010405173741.C5787@orakel.ntnu.no> NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035171383 4387 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 03:36:23 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 03:36:23 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: (qmail 24206 invoked by alias); 7 Apr 2001 23:02:49 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 24201 invoked from network); 7 Apr 2001 23:02:49 -0000 Original-Received: from cr103675-a.bloor1.on.wave.home.com (HELO mail.thpoon.com) (24.42.106.79) by gnus.org with SMTP; 7 Apr 2001 23:02:49 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 31345 invoked from network); 7 Apr 2001 23:02:49 -0000 Original-Received: from unknown (HELO tea.thpoon.com) (qmailr@192.168.1.2) by cr103675-a.bloor1.on.wave.home.com with SMTP; 7 Apr 2001 23:02:49 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 3310 invoked by uid 1000); 7 Apr 2001 23:02:49 -0000 Original-To: ding@gnus.org X-Face: 0=A/O5-+sE[Tf%X>rYr?Y5LD4,:^'jaJ!4jC&UR*ZrrK2>^`g22Qeb]!:d;}2YJ|Hq"LHdF OX`jWX|AT-WVFQ(TPhFVak)0nt$aEdlOq=1~D,:\z5QlVOrZ2(H,mKg=Xr|'VlHA="r Mail-Copies-To: never In-Reply-To: <20010405173741.C5787@orakel.ntnu.no> User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.1 (Cuyahoga Valley) Original-Lines: 27 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:35678 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:35678 Oyvind Moll writes: > (Where I'm standing? I have run nothing but FreeBSD on my own > workstation for a few years and maintain a FreeBSD port or two. > Still, when it comes to easily staying up-to-date on applications, > /usr/ports can _not_ compete with Debian yet. Not by far. But I > still run FreeBSD, and will continue to do so in the overseeable > future. Thank you.) I'll challenge that 'up-to-date'. If you run potato (which I do on my workstation), you'll be stuck with old versions of everythig ((x)emacs including), unless you want to compile from sources (which I do). Of course, you can try compiling a source package from unstable, but that only works 50% of the time without having to upgrade `debhelper' and half of the system (including Perl). In my experience the ports collection gets newer versions of applications a lot faster. It may have its glitches sometimes, but works for me 90% of the time on my server (which also has X libraries and a ton of software, all installed from ports). Debian is as good as Linux gets in my experience, but I like BSD's ports so much that if there were not some applications that only run under Linux, I would have switched even on my workstation. I sure wish there were ports for Linux. -- Arcady Genkin