From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/33316 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Florian Weimer Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: \201 irritation! :-) Date: 11 Nov 2000 17:35:28 +0100 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: <871ywi31rj.fsf@deneb.enyo.de> References: <00Aug28.151432edt.115218@gateway.intersys.com> <00Aug28.173634edt.115213@gateway.intersys.com> <200009051429.PAA09826@djlvig.dl.ac.uk> <200009082240.XAA16800@djlvig.dl.ac.uk> <87n1h86w6a.fsf@deneb.enyo.de> <200009181407.PAA02748@djlvig.dl.ac.uk> <87wvg7roi1.fsf@deneb.enyo.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035169447 24513 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 03:04:07 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 03:04:07 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ding@gnus.org Return-Path: Original-Received: from spinoza.math.uh.edu (spinoza.math.uh.edu [129.7.128.18]) by mailhost.sclp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78A1DD049A for ; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 11:31:28 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (lists@Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by spinoza.math.uh.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAB14656; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 10:31:16 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Sat, 11 Nov 2000 10:30:40 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from mailhost.sclp.com (postfix@66-209.196.61.interliant.com [209.196.61.66] (may be forged)) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA00789 for ; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 10:30:28 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from mail.netic.de (mail.s.netic.de [212.9.160.11]) by mailhost.sclp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E487AD049A for ; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 11:30:53 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: by mail.netic.de (Smail3.2.0.111/mail.s.netic.de) via LF.net GmbH Internet Services via remoteip 212.9.163.40 via remotehost mail.enyo.de with esmtp for mail.gnus.org id m13udYJ-001X6GC; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 17:30:51 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from [192.168.1.2] (helo=deneb.enyo.de) by mail.enyo.de with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 13udXY-0000ep-00; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 17:30:04 +0100 Original-Received: from fw by deneb.enyo.de with local (Exim 3.12 #1) id 13udcm-0007vY-00; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 17:35:28 +0100 Original-To: Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE (Kai =?iso-8859-1?q?Gro=DFjohann?=) In-Reply-To: Original-Lines: 24 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) Emacs/20.7 Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:33316 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:33316 Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE (Kai Gro=DFjohann) writes: > > BTW: Please do not abuse GRAVE ACCENT (U+0060) as quotation mark. > > Thanks. >=20 > It is not clear to me how to get around this. Using `foo' to quote > stuff is strongly engrained in Emacs. For example in doc strings. > Switching to a different pair of characters (gotta switch both since ' > is used as a right quote but isn't directional) would mean that all > *.el files have to be changed (for practical purposes, I don't think > there is a Lisp file without these characters in doc strings). The code which renders the help messages would have to be changed, nothing else. > Also, maybe the tick and backtick characters should be changed from ' > and `, respectively. But of course that means changing the Lisp > syntax! I think using these characters in source code (TeX, Texinfo, Lisp, Shell) is acceptable, but presenting them to the user should be reconsidered (at least in a few years, when Unicode fonts are in more widespread use, so you can use the quotation mark characters from the,).